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Re: Halloween event

Postby Firon » 27 Oct 2014, 18:29

Ryxa wrote:
Hercules wrote:Me personally I'm going to endorse Sakurajima Depths (Farming Tiamat) for a couple of reasons. Though this is more efficient if you can solo Tiamat at least on hard

1. Solo Runs take about 3:00. (You don't have to wait for slow Pt members to leave a group centered dungeon like RoR)
2. Steal Attack - Players with good enough Twin Sword SF+Affinity should be able to OHKO Tiamat on solo Hard-Hell (I don't main Twin Swords so my Affinity+SF were mediocre, but still managed ohko's).
3.(Optional) - You can also equip Hattori Hanzo or the (poor mans version->)LupinCXIII for extra item drop %.
4. Login Boost is overall more efficient here (at least for soloing)

I solo'd on HELL with LupinCXIII title, 25% login boost and, Steal Attack III for an extra boost. I got the Kamikui Corruption within an hour.


http://onigiri.wikia.com/wiki/Kamikui_Corruption

Title/Steal Attack/Login Boost can be used on any Kamikui except Hades with the exact same effect on all of them. This applies to all the event items. As for RoR vs Sakurajima, it's just preference afterwards.


Shouldn't premium+login+steal attack (III)+title more than double the drop rate? Seeing as Hallow Flour (with a base drop rate of 50%) didn't drop makes me think that some or all of those don't work :/

-Assuming the drop chance is calculated once instead of for each one...

Else

~80% chance of Flour

edit:
Nvm, had assumed that the drops were completely fixed rates (as in, nothing can increase the drop rate) but really have nothing to base this on -.-"
well, I guess this shows something about game mechanics, anyway (assuming that the drops are affected by steal attack etc.)
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Re: Halloween event

Postby Hercules » 27 Oct 2014, 22:31

Ryxa wrote:
Hercules wrote:Me personally I'm going to endorse Sakurajima Depths (Farming Tiamat) for a couple of reasons. Though this is more efficient if you can solo Tiamat at least on hard

1. Solo Runs take about 3:00. (You don't have to wait for slow Pt members to leave a group centered dungeon like RoR)
2. Steal Attack - Players with good enough Twin Sword SF+Affinity should be able to OHKO Tiamat on solo Hard-Hell (I don't main Twin Swords so my Affinity+SF were mediocre, but still managed ohko's).
3.(Optional) - You can also equip Hattori Hanzo or the (poor mans version->)LupinCXIII for extra item drop %.
4. Login Boost is overall more efficient here (at least for soloing)

I solo'd on HELL with LupinCXIII title, 25% login boost and, Steal Attack III for an extra boost. I got the Kamikui Corruption within an hour.


http://onigiri.wikia.com/wiki/Kamikui_Corruption

Title/Steal Attack/Login Boost can be used on any Kamikui except Hades with the exact same effect on all of them. This applies to all the event items. As for RoR vs Sakurajima, it's just preference afterwards.

I agree completely, all of that stuff is uniform no matter what dungeon. I only stated my preferences and the reasons behind them.

@Firon: Premium Boost has no effect on drop rate %'s. But the math between the natural drop rate vs those that can potentially boost that drop rate is hard to determine. Hopefully the wiki team can shed some light on that soon
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Re: Halloween event

Postby Firon » 27 Oct 2014, 23:27

Hercules wrote:@Firon: Premium Boost has no effect on drop rate %'s. But the math between the natural drop rate vs those that can potentially boost that drop rate is hard to determine. Hopefully the wiki team can shed some light on that soon


Oops, haven't got premium boost -.-"

Also, used 30% login boost.

so... without the assumed effect of premium (assumed 30% -.-")
(1-chance of not getting flour for any of the "chances")*100
(1-1/2*(1-0.5*3/10)*(1-0.5*4/5)*(1-0.5*3/20))*100
~76%
(3/10 for login
4/5 for steal attack
3/20 for Hattori Hanzou)

Whereas, if it stacked additively:
=50 +(0.3+0.8+0.15)*50
=112.5%

Hopefully I didn't mess up my probabilities somewhere.
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Re: Halloween event

Postby Tihealy » 29 Oct 2014, 21:23

i don't understand people saying tiamat dungeon is better than ahriman dungeon...
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