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Character Type and Secondary Stat for Bow?

PostPosted: 20 Sep 2014, 22:47
by Ying
So I'm a bow user with pure dex so far...
Wondering if I should go Cautious or Daring type, and Wis or Pow as secondary stat.

Re: Character Type and Secondary Stat for Bow?

PostPosted: 20 Sep 2014, 23:15
by Sheiko
Ying wrote:So I'm a bow user with pure dex so far...
Wondering if I should go Cautious or Daring type, and Wis or Pow as secondary stat.


Cautious = 7 Wis/Dex, 5 Mnd/Vit, 2Pow
Daring = 7 Dex/Pow, 5 Vit/Wis, 2Mnd
You can think carefully as you look at the pic below how the stats increase.
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Pow
+0.75 Max HP per 1 stat
+7.83 Katana Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Odachi Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Spear Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Dual Sword Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Axe Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Bow Proficiency per 1 stat

Vit
+1.41 Max HP per 1 stat
+0.50 HP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+6.83 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+1.91 Magical Defense per 1 stat
+7.58 Spear Proficiency per 1 stat

Wis
+1.00 Max SP per 1 stat
+2.50 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+0.04 Critical Rate per 1 stat
+7.91 Wand Proficiency per 1 stat

Mnd
+2.08 Max SP per 1 stat
+1.00 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+1.91 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+6.16 Magical Defense per 1 stat
+7.58 Staff Proficiency per 1 stat

Dex
+0.08 Critical Rate per 1 stat
+7.83 Dual Sword Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Bow Proficiency per 1 stat

EDIT: Wis crit rate

Re: Character Type and Secondary Stat for Bow?

PostPosted: 20 Sep 2014, 23:30
by Firon
Sheiko wrote:
Ying wrote:So I'm a bow user with pure dex so far...
Wondering if I should go Cautious or Daring type, and Wis or Pow as secondary stat.


Cautious = 7 Wis/Dex, 5 Mnd/Vit, 2Pow
Daring = 7 Dex/Pow, 5 Vit/Wis, 2Mnd
You can think carefully as you look at the pic below how the stats increase.
ACC.png

Pow
+0.75 Max HP per 1 stat

Vit
+1.41 Max HP per 1 stat
+0.50 HP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+6.83 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+1.91 Magical Defense per 1 stat

Wis
+1.00 Max SP per 1 stat
+2.50 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+0.08 Critical Rate per 1 stat

Mnd
+2.08 Max SP per 1 stat
+1.00 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+1.91 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+6.16 Magical Defense per 1 stat

Dex
+0.08 Critical Rate per 1 stat


most ppl go vit for hp or mnd for sp (also for rapid storm and sharing invigs)
I went wis because it's the most offensive stat after dex imo (1 crit point/24 wis xD, well the sp reduction isn't so bad) but I still have 50 mnd

I wouldn't suggest pow, because if you go pure dex, you should max it at 73. Golden eye (dex +9) is available from 71-76 and soon after you stop using it, you should have max aff without adding pow (well, I chose daring, no idea how close you are to max aff with cautious at this stage). This happens much sooner if you have a good title. If you chose cautious, then you'll run out of sp a lot less because of the mnd and wis.

Re: Character Type and Secondary Stat for Bow?

PostPosted: 21 Sep 2014, 00:17
by SupremeTentacle
Sheiko wrote:Pow
+0.75 Max HP per 1 stat
+7.83 Katana Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Odachi Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Spear Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Dual Sword Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Axe Proficiency per 1 stat
+0.75 Bow Proficiency per 1 stat

Vit
+1.41 Max HP per 1 stat
+0.50 HP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+6.83 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+1.91 Magical Defense per 1 stat
+7.58 Spear Proficiency per 1 stat

Wis
+1.00 Max SP per 1 stat
+2.50 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+0.08 Critical Rate per 1 stat
+7.91 Wand Proficiency per 1 stat

Mnd
+2.08 Max SP per 1 stat
+1.00 SP Recovery Rate per 1 stat
+1.91 Physical Defense per 1 stat
+6.16 Magical Defense per 1 stat
+7.58 Staff Proficiency per 1 stat

Dex
+0.08 Critical Rate per 1 stat
+7.83 Dual Sword Proficiency per 1 stat
+7.83 Bow Proficiency per 1 stat


Note that this data will not be consistently accurate as most of this stuff scales based on level in addition to these stats. Hence, the effect of a single point will be amplified as your level increases. Affinity also follows nonlinear scaling per point that is put in, so yeah =|

I suggest referring the wiki as well, as some things are missing or inaccurate, such as critical force from dex, and the per tick sp regen from mind. (Note that the status shown in the window is basically completely useless unless you plan to hold shit for years.)

Power does not directly give affinity to spear/bow/ts, and only gives small bonuses once every ten points. Wisdom also only gives half of the crit that dex gives, as dex is 1 crit per 12 points, while wisdom is 1 per 24. Refer to the wiki for more information about this, or status in general.

Re: Character Type and Secondary Stat for Bow?

PostPosted: 21 Sep 2014, 04:00
by Argentum
SupremeTentacle wrote:(Note that the status shown in the window is basically completely useless unless you plan to hold shit for years.)



just out of curiosity: was that confirmed somewhere? i sure as heck didnt do that testing even though it was basically the only option left by termination for what it does when i did the tests for the mind values ^.^