Will Possibly reput some picture for evidence, if YouMeMoShi continue like that

So i went on the Maronuchi sewers for my usual grind, when i spot some monster getting damage from no where, so i look around see no players on the field. So i took my staff and tried to tag people around me adn they were in the ceiling a team of 5 peoples. None of them or rarely they been using Range Attack.

WHY i say this is an exploit instead of a glitch? A glitch is an error from the game that shouldn't be there in the first place. An exploit is someone ABUSING the glitch and turn it into an UNFAIR advantage compared to other peoples.

Tekato told me that they could possibly using a hack, and i presume that the hack in question is applying an amount of damage to 1 monster at a time. As you can see, there is damage going on, but no what-so-ever animation of an attack, i also falled endlessly if there was someone under the floor, but nothing.

Edit2:

SupremeTentacle wrote:I'm aware you're not lying, I'm just saying your impression is incorrect. I have no intention to defend them, it's just that there's a loading error caused by specific positions that leads to weapons being invisible. (Or sometimes the wrong weapon being shown.) They would have to change weapons for this error to update on your screen.

On the other hand, if you saw a guarding animation while they were doing damage, and several monsters were hit/killed, I would agree they were hacking.

After reflection, judging by (to my eyes) one of the Senior of Onigiri(NA version), since i have no technical thought on how the animations(of spells) and the attack animation are not showing, i don't have choice but to trust Rhythm here. But just to add something weird, the damage she have done was quite weird .. like a set of number(i seen a lot of 5731,6000, 6446 in repetitions, like 6000 6000 5731 600 5731 6446 5371 5371 damage done etc...)

I had to go on the ceiling because it was the only Point of View that could show the damage going on with no animations around

Not only they are abusing an exploit which make them invulnerable to damage from the frost ghosts and the lantern, but they gain the exp from killing them

Edit: January 22nd,2015 10:00 EST / 7:00 PST

i repeat, The following player YouMeMoShi and the party member : ™ShyNa™ have been doing this since 7 AM EST / 4 AM PST

ALRIGHT, TIME'S UP LET'S DO THIS! LEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENNNNNNNNKINS!

I saw YouMeMoShi again cheating, by using her hack, AND bought another cheat device, a bot. I went on the ceiling and watched her for a good 30 minutes, and she did nothing, beside the programmed command to jump

Evidence and Actual Proof:

Note the Team's Name : "MODE The F*ck, NoMoreNice, OnlyOnBad"(and also the 4 x 7200dmg(hint of hacking) :

The Homophobic Slur : "Die GAY"(and the 4x 5371dmg(hint of hacking) :

Some people who joined their team, when i warned them MANY MANY MANY times that she is hacking, yet doesn't care : http://i.imgur.com/B6fGQOs.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/iqoS7Mg.jpg (once again the Quadra 5371 dmg) , http://i.imgur.com/YlfpNKq.jpg . This one is quite unique ... nearly all the team member is on the ceiling ( :O ) : http://i.imgur.com/RUSZqUI.jpg

This one is a full-screen one, not only Onigir, but all my screen(you can see at the bottom the time and date ( YEAR-MM-DD ) Time is EST : http://i.imgur.com/d5jL62A.jpg

A (somewhat) clean overview from the "action" :

Here a different side of the action( PENTA 7200 !!!!! ) :

Here is the, "so it seem" creator of the Bot Q6int, who is within the team (take note the time show 9:54 AM EST , which is 6:54 AM PST, a good amount of 3 hours botting for YouMeMoShi today) : http://i.imgur.com/GhNAzyX.jpg

Player who is actually botting, hacking and cheating : YouMeMoShi

Player who joined her team, and after several warning, didn't listen: ™ShyNa™ , N@rukami , OniKa , >Kyuubi Hime , BLoodYPrincesS, oniboy and Q6int.

Only Shyna still being in the team after 30+ minutes

EDIT: January 24th 2015 7:25 PM PST/10:25 PM EST : Q6int caught using the ceiling glitch, and turning it into the same exploit that YouMeMoShi was using, INSTEAD he using it in the Hibiya Sewers

Q6int said he didt admit that he was the "bot" creator, but i don't believe it's a hack since the damage number are FIX to a point that they are the same each tick

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/30fGpvR.jpg

PS: this ceiling exploit in the hibiya sewers is way harder than it was in the Maronouchi Sewers( can't remember the name),but it's possible since i found a spot!

PoV from the ceiling( IMPORTANT NOTE: he kept blocking releasing and reblocking repeatidly... idk why but probably a way the bot/hack work): http://i.imgur.com/k9PbErH.jpg

Someone told me,( after i describe his movement and such) that : he hacked the debug client. Not sure if it's real or not, but when he keep blocking, deblock reblocking, redeblock .. and repeat ... I really hope Onigiri will take SEVERE action for this! i can't still believe after YouMeMoShi changed her name that is STILL in the game, and even a cracker that give YouMeMoShi the crack/hack

Edit: AND HE STILL GOING AS January25th 5:35 AM EST / 2:35 AM PST : http://i.imgur.com/ajDgqSq.jpg

LOOOL wow ppl really need that glitch to grind field mobs thats pretty depressing....

I see...so this is what "grinding in edo" means. That's quite sad.

I hope we get open PK in these field zones.

Rather than hacking, I believe its more along the lines of botting.

Should check if they respond to stimulus.

This is like.. K**k*i tier pathetic.

Nizuto wrote:I see...so this is what "grinding in edo" means. That's quite sad.

I hope we get open PK in these field zones.

WHat if i accidentally run over someone with thunderbeast hue hue hue

SupremeTentacle wrote:Rather than hacking, I believe its more along the lines of botting.

Should check if they respond to stimulus.

This is like.. K**k*i tier pathetic.

Dear SupremeTentacle, i don,t think it's botting, botting impying giving actions and command to the program, and they are jsut standing there, fact that there is damage going on WITHOUT ANY aniamtions of an attack going on, and without no players around, like the screenshot provided, i did look for a good WHOLE 10 minutes, and they were standing there,beside YouMeMoShi moved once and they aren't replying to my message.

Just come and see for yourself if you think i'm lying.

Tihealy wrote:

SupremeTentacle wrote:Rather than hacking, I believe its more along the lines of botting.

Should check if they respond to stimulus.

This is like.. K**k*i tier pathetic.

Dear SupremeTentacle, i don,t think it's botting, because they are jsut standing there, fact that there is damage going on WITHOUT ANY aniamtions of an attack going on, and without no players around, like the screenshot provided, i did look for a good WHOLE 10 minutes, and they were standing there,beside YouMeMoShi moved once and they aren't replying to my message.

Just come and see for yourself if you think i'm lying.

I'm aware you're not lying, I'm just saying your impression is incorrect. I have no intention to defend them, it's just that there's a loading error caused by specific positions that leads to weapons being invisible. (Or sometimes the wrong weapon being shown.) They would have to change weapons for this error to update on your screen.

On the other hand, if you saw a guarding animation while they were doing damage, and several monsters were hit/killed, I would agree they were hacking.

SupremeTentacle wrote:

Tihealy wrote:

SupremeTentacle wrote:Rather than hacking, I believe its more along the lines of botting.

Should check if they respond to stimulus.

This is like.. K**k*i tier pathetic.

Dear SupremeTentacle, i don,t think it's botting, because they are jsut standing there, fact that there is damage going on WITHOUT ANY aniamtions of an attack going on, and without no players around, like the screenshot provided, i did look for a good WHOLE 10 minutes, and they were standing there,beside YouMeMoShi moved once and they aren't replying to my message.

Just come and see for yourself if you think i'm lying.

I'm aware you're not lying, I'm just saying your impression is incorrect. I have no intention to defend them, it's just that there's a loading error caused by specific positions that leads to weapons being invisible. (Or sometimes the wrong weapon being shown.) They would have to change weapons for this error to update on your screen.

On the other hand, if you saw a guarding animation while they were doing damage, and several monsters were hit/killed, I would agree they were hacking.

They aren't in a guard stance, they both are standing still, weapon in one hand, nothing moving, yet damage is being done. i changed zone many time and it still didn't change it. they are like statue dealing inisible damage

Tihealy wrote:
Dear SupremeTentacle, i don,t think it's botting, botting impying giving actions and command to the program, and they are jsut standing there, fact that there is damage going on WITHOUT ANY aniamtions of an attack going on, and without no players around, like the screenshot provided, i did look for a good WHOLE 10 minutes, and they were standing there,beside YouMeMoShi moved once and they aren't replying to my message.

Just come and see for yourself if you think i'm lying.

I saw YouMeMoShi once in Izumo field zone staying afk (with one of the people in the party you spotted), getting attacked by those Toudaiki. The mobs would die exactly before that person was hurt by the attack motion of the mob while the player was just standing there (no attacks, no movement, nothing). I think that person lacked mana but I'm not 100% sure. I joined their party to see if I get any response, but I got none.

Tekato wrote:WHat if i accidentally run over someone with thunderbeast hue hue hue

Then we'd need special "roads" for those with 3x Lunge Step and 2x Thunderbeast

This is not botting or exploting a bug, it's poor coding from Cyberstep and it works with any sewer map [i know about it since ginza sewers].
TBH, I would never expect anyone to abuse it to this level since the game isn't even hard to play and there is a lot of people doing the carry to the higher levels even if I would prefer parties with active players instead of most of them being "I carry, I've TB! You support!"

How it's done:
Get out of the map [walkable cells], move a bit to one of the sides before ending into the next infinite loop and hello ceiling. Corners after tunnels and bridges that connect sides are wonderful to make this happen since you jump to "neverland" or "water".
[Going to laugh a lot when I log and see a lot of people trying this to do the same as them lol]

Way to fix it:
if player out of map {run: move to save point}

The way the game makes it manually just helps this to be on going which is a shame.