Hello to everyone,
I started this game two weeks ago and now i'm confused about some things:
1. Cant choose if i should stay spear or turn into wand user
2. Why the hell is so hard to find a magatama in this game...What are the drop rates on those things... All i get are crappy ones from Kishinden Hell and i seek Gemini or lord Gokan/Soutei magatamas (also Renge in secluded forest on hard) but after 100+ runs even in the weekends where its x2 drop rate i get crappy stuff like Snail and Sparrow (0 magas from secluded)
3. Why do i need real money invested in OC so i can buy a magatama from a user's shop and not using the ones the game's giving me
I will be so happy if someone help me

DeiDre wrote:Hello to everyone,
I started this game two weeks ago and now i'm confused about some things:
1. Cant choose if i should stay spear or turn into wand user
2. Why the hell is so hard to find a magatama in this game...What are the drop rates on those things... All i get are crappy ones from Kishinden Hell and i seek Gemini or lord Gokan/Soutei magatamas (also Renge in secluded forest on hard) but after 100+ runs even in the weekends where its x2 drop rate i get crappy stuff like Snail and Sparrow (0 magas from secluded)
3. Why do i need real money invested in OC so i can buy a magatama from a user's shop and not using the ones the game's giving me
I will be so happy if someone help me :shock:

1. Your choice, I guess. Personally, I would be leaning towards wand because of the elemental/range advantages and quick skills. I may be biased here, though, because I've never really liked spears -.-"

2. Magatama are really rare except for some methods. I'd really only suggest these three methods unless you're willing to invest some time...
-Warding - Assault! Aragami Magma
-Miroku's Bargains
-Quests

If you are willing to farm them yourself (I'm assuming you're using the wiki for the locations), then I'd suggest checking the recommended levels to farm on the two tables here (ignore the part that says it may be outdated. I seriously doubt that CS has changed the rates at all). Even if you don't check the best area, I'd suggest checking the level drop range to make sure that the magatama you're farming actually drops from the mobs and not only the dungeon boss.

Coincidentally, these tables also have the rates...

but, here's another explanation if you need it (I think it's described better here anyway).

3. Well...

Anyway, offers count as spendable oc so maybe try some easy ones (like vids) in your free time?

Side note: Lord Soutei Magatama are pretty good when ornamented well. I've ornamented a lot (from bargains) with heavenly shield and have pretty much gotten to lvl 100 with +0 weapons on an alt...

Thank you for the well explained answer. From that table i see the drop rate is so low... and no idea why on hard mode there is x2 chance than hell mode... What it seems my best odds for Lord Soultei maga is lvl 17-19 mobs on hard mode or am i wrong?
The bargains from Miroku needs lvl 16 friendship and i'm still at 11... Is there any specific map that tends to drop more Model Kits or is it just all random from any mob in 10lvl range from you? (btw i'm lv 71)
And about that Warding Assault dungeon... will i be able to do it? sais recommended lvl 70 or magas drop there on hard/hell only too ?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration

DeiDre wrote:Thank you for the well explained answer. From that table i see the drop rate is so low... and no idea why on hard mode there is x2 chance than hell mode... What it seems my best odds for Lord Soultei maga is lvl 17-19 mobs on hard mode or am i wrong?
The bargains from Miroku needs lvl 16 friendship and i'm still at 11... Is there any specific map that tends to drop more Model Kits or is it just all random from any mob in 10lvl range from you? (btw i'm lv 71)
And about that Warding Assault dungeon... will i be able to do it? sais recommended lvl 70 or magas drop there on hard/hell only too ?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration :)

Lvl 18 hard mode would be best (a difference of 1~2 selection will probably mean a few hundred kills less), but I'd still recommend aragami magma (normal) for those. As you've probably guessed, aragami magma has abnormal drop rates and the mode you enter in only changes which magatama drop, but not the magatama drop rate. If you're farming magatama, though, and not getting them from bargains, then you might as well farm something better. I'd suggest looking through these and seeing if there's anything you like that drops from aragami magma or has quests.

With aragami magma, you don't have to kill the boss since it's the mobs that drop the mags so that makes it slightly easier...

For friendship items, a higher level is better. 10 levels below will drop friendship items very rarely. I think things of the same level or higher give the max rate but haven't looked into the exact saturation point for confirmation...
In any case, the dungeon or mobs don't matter.

DeiDre wrote:Thank you for the well explained answer. From that table i see the drop rate is so low... and no idea why on hard mode there is x2 chance than hell mode... What it seems my best odds for Lord Soultei maga is lvl 17-19 mobs on hard mode or am i wrong?
The bargains from Miroku needs lvl 16 friendship and i'm still at 11... Is there any specific map that tends to drop more Model Kits or is it just all random from any mob in 10lvl range from you? (btw i'm lv 71)
And about that Warding Assault dungeon... will i be able to do it? sais recommended lvl 70 or magas drop there on hard/hell only too ?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration

Just a little side track but this is for later in the game for you but the best place to farm friendship items of any kind is a place called Banjiro Island, on Normal in a 5 man party there are a massive amount of easy to kill mobs that spawn (fairly laggy) but they have a good chance of dropping items like that. But like I said thats some way away prob for you but keep it in mind.

With Friendship Items, I prefer using Point Daruma. True, you can only get 10 of each per day, but it's really easy to obtain the points for those. Just grind the Warding's Daily Search dungeons. Aidama is worth 15 points a pop, and if you use the 300% drop boosts that the login calendar gives for free, then you're guaranteed to get at least 15 Aidama per run on Normal difficulty. Saturday's dungeon has proven most profitable for me so far. 6.7k points in one hour. Enough said.

Thank you all for the help. I did Assault! Aragami Magma tho it was hard for me (those freezing mobs and 1 hit kill nekos...) because i cant execute any spell without any mob hitting me... and i do have insane lag in there, that i didnt encounter till now in other dungeons or in the town. Maga drop rate was realy cool, finding 1-2 every runn, but the RNG hates me and gives me crappy ones

If those mags you got are skill force mags, then they are not crappy then.
Btw, is it possible to get such mags for Twin?

Miyano311 wrote:If those mags you got are skill force mags, then they are not crappy then.
Btw, is it possible to get such mags for Twin?

Aragami Normal should give Inari and Lion-Dog but I'd recommend farming Lacus Mortis if you need these instead (if you can). Lacus Mortis pretty much gives every TS mag you'd ever need.... except Hunter's OTL.

Even more steps away from Heaven XD