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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Moriya Suwako » 07 Aug 2014, 03:03

Essentially speaking, you shouldn't really go for vit unless you plan to add the minimal amount for Lord Enma Magatama (which honestly is a very good magatama), followed by Magic/Lord Henjyo magatamas. For a hybrid, levelling Wisdom -> Mind is actually more than enough in terms of survivability. The defense that Mind gives should be quite enough, and if it's not, you should be aiming for Fated Contractor ornamentations. It's a big waste to add points into vitality unless you're reached a point where you literally have a huge waste of excess SP that you can't really progress in your build any further.

And uhh, who ever told you about crit heals..?
I'll admit I've never tested it on Energy Balls, but i've yet to see such "crit" heals on any other kind of heal. I currently have 38 crit at the moment and I have yet to see an increased heal value on the skills Cure, heal, healing, and sanctuary. Maybe Energy balls are different, but it's something I have never actually seen. It might be that you accidentally stacked two on each other and forgot about as you moved around the dungeon. If crit heals did exist.. i'd be healing 15k+ cures ;_;




But yeah, like Rocksilver says, Frost Glaive/Ice bolt is probably THE best mage skill you can find out there in terms of versatility- and by that, I mean better than ougis too. Each set of spikes deal three hits, and once you level it to rank VII, you can potentially do 9 hits onto a large/wide monster. Not to mention, hitting it straight in the middle of the glaives (what I like to call the sweet spot) usually nets you about 2x~3x the damage of what you'd normally get if you didn't hit there. I personally am NOT a fan of call lightning. I find Earth glaive superior in every way and i'd rather add that slot into something like Fireball/Hellfire or Electric-shot/Thundercrash (which i hit 50k+ crits on echigo estate 5 man hell mobs).

I was speaking to a friend of mine who saw me in action and she wondered if the Wis count had some effect the way healing spells does for MND stats. It was interesting enough to ask here, in the magic section. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this hypothesis, would appreciate it.


Depends on what you meant. The only thing wisdom does for staves is that it reduces SP cost of both wand and staff skills for every 10 points of wisdom. Other than that, Wisdom doesn't affect healing spells in any direct way. There is a chart right here if you wish to see actual stat specifics: http://onigiri.wikia.com/wiki/Stats#Wis_.28Wisdom.29

And again, most people that going hybrid for mind, increase their mind stat to 50 or 60 max, in order to use rapid storm (rank V) or meditation/extend heal (rank VI).


Well that's where people start branching off and deciding whether they want to build dex for the crit and dps/cooldown reduction or go hybrid support and invest the rest into mind (like what I did). Either one is good, but you shouldn't be speccing anymore into wisdom if you've already maxed out your wand affinity.
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Lynneth » 07 Aug 2014, 04:27

Hisashiburi wrote:
Rocksilver wrote:I was speaking to a friend of mine who saw me in action and she wondered if the Wis count had some effect the way healing spells does for MND stats. It was interesting enough to ask here, in the magic section. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this hypothesis, would appreciate it.


Let me think for a moment..... Emm, actually, yes and no. First of all, do you know that healing magics (or some healing magic, i only test it with energy ball skill) can do crit heal? *Dont quote me on this one, and ofc, cmiiw*
And yes, adding wisdom means you get a critical stat as well, not as much as dex stat though (iirc, 24 wis for 1 crit, and 12 dex for 1 crit)
But still, mind is your primary stat when it comes to staff's skill. As you know, each rank (I, II, III, etc) need certain amount of mind to be maximal (duration and amount of the healing). Most people said, rank I need 10 total mind, rank II need 20 total mind, and so on.
And again, most people that going hybrid for mind, increase their mind stat to 50 or 60 max, in order to use rapid storm (rank V) or meditation/extend heal (rank VI).

And, little tips about squishy wizard. Maybe you wanna try to use liquor called "benten's blessing". It's prevent mobs/bosses to 1HKO you FOR ONCE. Try it, and see for yourself :lol:


Are you sure heals/cure/healing can crit? I never see it, as far as supporting my own or others, I never happen to crit heal, both using Sanctuary/Energy Ball/ or other healings.
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Moriya Suwako » 07 Aug 2014, 04:29

Lynneth wrote:
Hisashiburi wrote:
Rocksilver wrote:I was speaking to a friend of mine who saw me in action and she wondered if the Wis count had some effect the way healing spells does for MND stats. It was interesting enough to ask here, in the magic section. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this hypothesis, would appreciate it.


Let me think for a moment..... Emm, actually, yes and no. First of all, do you know that healing magics (or some healing magic, i only test it with energy ball skill) can do crit heal? *Dont quote me on this one, and ofc, cmiiw*
And yes, adding wisdom means you get a critical stat as well, not as much as dex stat though (iirc, 24 wis for 1 crit, and 12 dex for 1 crit)
But still, mind is your primary stat when it comes to staff's skill. As you know, each rank (I, II, III, etc) need certain amount of mind to be maximal (duration and amount of the healing). Most people said, rank I need 10 total mind, rank II need 20 total mind, and so on.
And again, most people that going hybrid for mind, increase their mind stat to 50 or 60 max, in order to use rapid storm (rank V) or meditation/extend heal (rank VI).

And, little tips about squishy wizard. Maybe you wanna try to use liquor called "benten's blessing". It's prevent mobs/bosses to 1HKO you FOR ONCE. Try it, and see for yourself :lol:


Are you sure heals/cure/healing can crit? I never see it, as far as supporting my own or others, I never happen to crit heal, both using Sanctuary/Energy Ball/ or other healings.


Heals don't crit ._.
Another case of bad information- and no i'm not quoting you on this but to whoever it was from.
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Lynneth » 07 Aug 2014, 05:30

@Moriya/Mrs.Cute

Can you help me handling this nyaruko? :lol: :lol:
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Rocksilver » 07 Aug 2014, 06:12

Thanks for the link Moriya, it was very helpful!

As one who has both Henjyo and Enma, the fact that I found an Enma maga for less than 5 OC at a stall somewhere in Kyoto ensures that I don't need to use Henjyo, due to being less effective, at least to me. However, most players will probably never get more than one Enma Magatama, so this may be their only option.

I tried Benten's blessing before, but in the Minute it affects you, is not a guarantee that you will die in the next minute or so...usually I'm facing multiple hits if I should die, so the Resolute effect will only block one shot while the rest of them slices/dices/crushes/purees me.

Mobility is my Benten's blessing, lol. And its free!

I put vit points initially to use Enma, but since I achieved the requirements, the rest have been going toward Mind and Wisdom. I only need one point of wisdom to get 100, so I can finally get that reduction. 80 reduction is great, but 100 sounds pretty good too.

Every level up since then with the Vit points I already put in, just adds to my Hp pool, so I'm not too worried about monsters OHKO...unless its hades...damn him to....uh...I'll get back to you on that.
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Lynneth » 07 Aug 2014, 06:29

I am done with this game I guess. That's it. The last opening gachas were awful. Still no Ougi Skills which I in desparate need. Instead got a bunny costume which is Useless in battle and NOT CUTE and desparately to be cute, skillsets cards which are useless, etc etc. And it's not even cheap opening those gatchas :x
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Otonashi » 07 Aug 2014, 06:45

You're better off buying weapons that already have Ougi on them. +0 weapons with Ougi are sold for relatively cheap (~100 oc) in Echigo.
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Lynneth » 07 Aug 2014, 07:22

Otonashi wrote:You're better off buying weapons that already have Ougi on them. +0 weapons with Ougi are sold for relatively cheap (~100 oc) in Echigo.


I'm not even reach Echigo yet. I'm stuck at Nyaruko ._., and at my level.. it's better if I level up a bit to equip the lv.65++ weapons. Guess I get the short sticks of the long raws.
!@#!@#@! C$.

And the party in SF getting worse .. :lol: :lol:
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Lynneth » 07 Aug 2014, 07:22

Otonashi wrote:You're better off buying weapons that already have Ougi on them. +0 weapons with Ougi are sold for relatively cheap (~100 oc) in Echigo.


I'm not even reach Echigo yet. I'm stuck at Nyaruko ._., and at my level.. it's better if I level up a bit to equip the lv.65++ weapons. Guess I get the short sticks of the long raws.
!@#!@#@! C$.

And the party in SF getting worse .. :lol: :lol:

The OC has already been spent. So no money :D :lol:

There was a staff with ougis, but it's already sold.. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Well, whatever happens happens... @!$!$#@!#$
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Re: [WIP]Mariah's Guide to becoming a Magical girl (or guy)

Postby Hisashiburi » 07 Aug 2014, 10:05

Like i said, dont quote me on that info :lol:
The reason why energy ball looks like "crit", is maybe when cast energy ball, change it to main weapon. You know, you cast sanctuary, you change your weapon, and you receive more heal? Something like that.
For vit and dex, it's like a different between solo player and the "other" player. If you dont have any trouble finding party, with higher lvl player for example, then dont bother to add this stats (excluding if you're willing to use enma). Better to maxed up your dex for better crit.
Oh, and for adding wisdom if you already reach max affinity even without any aff mags, dont worry. If this game still exist, the future content will be raise our affinity cap to 4k.
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