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Re: S> +100 g100 Dragon spears and more PM!!!

Postby Kaze'aze » 06 Nov 2014, 11:24

and thats where you see the difference between 800oc and 500oc (take note (cost of boulders+burningwater) does not even add up to 300oc) so why should i sell a fully carded crafted weapon for 200 or 300oc thats a ripoff, how much am i getting from it( i personally made one of the spears myself) g100+100 and is the strongest of the spears ( my own ougi cards ive been saving)
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Re: S> +100 g100 Dragon spears and more PM!!!

Postby Ryxa » 06 Nov 2014, 11:46

Kaze'aze wrote:and thats where you see the difference between 800oc and 500oc (take note (cost of boulders+burningwater) does not even add up to 300oc) so why should i sell a fully carded crafted weapon for 200 or 300oc thats a ripoff, how much am i getting from it( i personally made one of the spears myself) g100+100 and is the strongest of the spears ( my own ougi cards ive been saving)

Let's use your example of 800 OC for a Genobuster.

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800 OC for a Genobuster = 560 OC after tax.
560 OC/4 = 140 OC since it takes 4x the rare materials and/or time and/or effort for a Genobuster compared to a Dragon Spear.
140 OC/0.70 = 200 OC per Dragon Spear due to tax.

Or more simply, 800 OC/4 = 200 OC.

Let's assume each Ougi is worth 50 OC because that is approx. what they're worth now...

200 OC+(50 OC*2) = 300 OC per Dragon Spear.

Let's assume a "perfect" skill card set is worth 50 OC (Even though it's not worth even close to that much if anything at all.)

300 OC+50 OC = 350 OC per Dragon Spear.

Add in the fact that it isn't an end game weapon and you'll swap it out anyways, just like how you're trying to sell it right now. I'll be generous and say that's only worth a 25 OC depreciation.

350 OC-25 OC = 325 OC per Dragon Spear.

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Now, let's say you purchased each of the rare materials instead in order to craft the weapons, and let's say that you never failed a single smelt.

Dragon Spear:
30 OC*1 rare materials per spear*10 Spears = 300 OC.

Genobuster:
30 OC*4 rare materials per spear*10 spears = 1200 OC.

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Of course, Artisan's will throw everything off. Let's assume you roll 2 skill set cards every time and that you use the 5x roll to save a bit of OC.

5 prizes: 2 sets of skill set cards*3 cards per set*5 points per card = 30 points
30 points/50 points per Artisan set*3 Artisan's per redemption = 1.8 Artisan's
9 Artisan's to +100/1.8 Artisan's per 5 roll = 5 sets of 5 rolls to Artisan to +100.
5 sets * 160 OC = 800 OC

Assuming you don't fail a single smelt you've plus 100'd your weapon now.

30 OC for the first craft of Dragon spear+800 OC for the roll = 830 OC.
120 OC for the first craft of Genobuster+800 OC for the roll = 920 OC.

After tax, you'd lose more OC than gain. MUCH more. This above is why we don't sell weapons based off "You can just artisan it all the way" and instead base pricing off how long it'd take to farm one.

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Don't forget that Genobuster is much more costly in ryou as well. Thus, I conclude that a Dragon Spear is worth in the 300s. Feel free to sell it at whatever price you want though. This is just my opinion on it.

Edit: Fixed one of my math errors.
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Re: S> +100 g100 Dragon spears and more PM!!!

Postby Don Lelouch » 07 Nov 2014, 05:34

Kaze'aze wrote:
Don Lelouch wrote:
Kaze'aze wrote:LOL DUDE NO, LOOKING FOR 500 PER SPEAR OR BEST OFFER. genobusters cost 800 or higher each

HIT YOUR HEAD GREEDY BIACH. Dragon Spears worth now around 250 up to 350 OC. Mid Price almost all the time is 300oc/each.
If you lookin up at 500 OC really hit your empty head and also good luck with 4ever waiting to find idiot which could buy it for that price.
Like someone said dumb high levels selling overpriced sh1t coz newbies buying that. Those weapons really not worth such much anymore.

So at end. GG Greedy Slacking Troll


YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE MAKING THE DRAGON SPEARS IS SO EASY WHY DONT YOU SELL YOURS FOR 200OC DAMN FOOL... .

Im Twin Sword user You greedy troll. At all I bough DS +100 ending with WDS 7/6 ICE 7 and evolved ougis for 300 OCs. Mean better than any of yours DS'es + Geno+80 for only 200 oc (skilled). That's why your prices are ridicioulus.
For your basic info now nothungs without ougis cost only 400 oc. Count it Greedy Troll now how much old "Ending" game weapons worth.
Tyvm and GG once again.
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