byebye baka's

I like some of the ideas you've put there. Min price may change, though, if the jp update is anything to go by

SupremeTentacle wrote:Minimum prices were reduced, and it was explicitly stated that they may be changed again in the future.

which would hopefully make items be priced by how difficult they are to attain.

until then. hoping they actually remove taxes cause its a pain for sellers

You should add a number stating to be wary of people making absurd claims in an attempt to shortchange you.

UM, YOU DO REALIZE THATS ME, and i only said that at that time cause i was new to spear?

Kaze'aze wrote:
3) if someone asks you to risk ornamenting the Magatama for them and they will buy, let them pay the minimum cost of the magatama with (glass marble) before you ornament. if successful, deduct from ornamentation price and sell to them. this will prevent people from tricking others to waste their magatama(if they fail) because they never buy them. an exception for miroku bargains magatamas can be included . ie dusk/amara.

Situation A: Whats to say the hustler (Guy "A" doing the selling) telling the buyer that he'll ornament the magas, punter (Guy "B) gives seller the rare magas for min price? then Guy "A" scams and gets a rare maga for min price.

Situation B: Whats to say the hustler (Guy "B" doing the "buying" this time) telling Guy "A" - seller/ornamenter he wants his ~junk~ magas ornamented, Guy "A" then buys the maga to ornament but then Guy "B" runs off having sold off his junk?

There's no safe way to do this, its all relied on trust. So only trade with people you know or respectable players.

Kaze'aze wrote:UM, YOU DO REALIZE THATS ME,

Yes. That was the point.

Kaze'aze wrote:3) if someone asks you to risk ornamenting the Magatama for them and they will buy, let them pay the minimum cost of the magatama with (glass marble) before you ornament. if successful, deduct from ornamentation price and sell to them. this will prevent people from tricking others to waste their magatama(if they fail) because they never buy them. an exception for miroku bargains magatamas can be included . ie dusk/amara.

For this one, I've always thought that if someone asks you to ornament, if you chose to do so, it's at your own risk.

Firon wrote:

Kaze'aze wrote:3) if someone asks you to risk ornamenting the Magatama for them and they will buy, let them pay the minimum cost of the magatama with (glass marble) before you ornament. if successful, deduct from ornamentation price and sell to them. this will prevent people from tricking others to waste their magatama(if they fail) because they never buy them. an exception for miroku bargains magatamas can be included . ie dusk/amara.

For this one, I've always thought that if someone asks you to ornament, if you chose to do so, it's at your own risk.

HERES AN EXAMPLE AND I FELT BAD FOR THE GUY CAUSE SOME1 MADE HIM ORNA and waste his magas saying "if you orna them ill buy"
http://onigiri.cyberstep.com/_/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4919 he wasted 2 magas he could have made something out of.l if you call that fair, ill say shame on you

Kaze'aze wrote:

Firon wrote:

Kaze'aze wrote:3) if someone asks you to risk ornamenting the Magatama for them and they will buy, let them pay the minimum cost of the magatama with (glass marble) before you ornament. if successful, deduct from ornamentation price and sell to them. this will prevent people from tricking others to waste their magatama(if they fail) because they never buy them. an exception for miroku bargains magatamas can be included . ie dusk/amara.

For this one, I've always thought that if someone asks you to ornament, if you chose to do so, it's at your own risk.

HERES AN EXAMPLE AND I FELT BAD FOR THE GUY CAUSE SOME1 MADE HIM ORNA and waste his magas saying "if you orna them ill buy"
http://onigiri.cyberstep.com/_/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4919 he wasted 2 magas he could have made something out of.l if you call that fair, ill say shame on you

No one made him ornament it. The buyer said they will only buy product A so the seller took a risk to see if they could get product A and it failed. If anything is unfair, it's how low your odds are. For the requested ornamentation, you'd usually expect to use a lot more than 2 magatama to get those attributes. I would assume that the seller was aware of this and presumably thought that even if it failed, it would still be sell-able to someone. The method you proposed is another way to go about it if both parties agree and trust each other where the buyer effectively pays the seller to ornament, presumably because they don't have the mats to ornament. They are different scenarious, though:
-A: Buyer will only buy some ornamentations
-B: Buyer is paying the seller to ornament


-It was one magatama btw (first slot worked, second broke)