I'm certain this is just a property of Echigo dungeons, that is, they are hard to clear with slow casting ranged attacks. Bows don't clear dungeons as fast as spears (or swords for that matter), at 12mins (~9 with support) for Estate and 16mins (~13 with support) for Hermit.Spirea wrote:A spear will clear most dungeons faster than wands. Unless mages start blooming at level 100, they are still extremely weak as of echigo.
Rocksilver wrote:For anyone curious about my build, I'll list it.
Level: 56
Pow: 2 (+7)
Vit: 22 (+10)
Wis: 78 (+20)
MND: 24 (+15)
Dex: 7 (+14)
Rocksilver wrote:I figure a couple of levels or maybe another stat point boost from Amaterasu may fix my 2 point wis problem, lol.
I have been saving points up, though, wis is now hitting 14 pts an increase and a level just may not cut it sometimes.
now that we are talking about Echigo, I seem to be stuck. I have heard rumors that I need to be 60? curse my lack of levels if its true then.
Otherwise, I may have just missed a convo or two by the third line.
Ah well, I'll figure it out.
Argentum wrote:Deathy wrote:Argentum wrote:actually, you need lvl 60 to proceed in the main story quest line once you enter echigo
Actually, they don't have to be 60 to do Echigo/ do the outside dungeons , by to do the estate , under/sado, they will have to get to 60 , cuase of susano, but they can do the other quest in the high way , without 60.
Just like they can get to Echigo, without being level 60 as so many thing. Just saying.
bolded the important part you seemed to just ignore. just like you always do.
Rocksilver wrote:So, off I go to bamboo well for some six minute hell runs! Yay 67k exp on a 200 booster!
Hisashiburi wrote:Rocksilver wrote:For anyone curious about my build, I'll list it.
Level: 56
Pow: 2 (+7)
Vit: 22 (+10)
Wis: 78 (+20)
MND: 24 (+15)
Dex: 7 (+14)
Ahh, cautious type? I see you're increasing your vit stats as well at that lvl, but it's better if you reach that 100 total wisdom first (only 2 points left ). Not that much different with SP cost reduction with 90 wisdom, but still need to do it.
I remember lynneth posted the screenshot of his/her own stats, and realize he/she already hybrid the stats wis/mind by 40/42 at lvl 34. Now i know where that frustration came from
Rocksilver wrote:Well, given that I do have over 30 vit, I use two Enma Mags to dishout an extra 104% dmg boost, so damage isn't too much of an issue for me.
Really, just shooting one Ice Glaive 7 can clear a room for me, and any stragglers I can take out one by one with lower skills.
I'm not quite done with Amaterasu at level 14...if I remember, I think she is at 11...probably...gonna check right now.
Edit: yep, below 14.
So, off I go to bamboo well for some six minute hell runs! Yay 67k exp on a 200 booster!
Rocksilver wrote:I was speaking to a friend of mine who saw me in action and she wondered if the Wis count had some effect the way healing spells does for MND stats. It was interesting enough to ask here, in the magic section. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this hypothesis, would appreciate it.
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