Weapon Tier List Discussion

[AtmaMoogle]

Bow>Wand>Axe>Spear>TS>Sword>Staff>Odachi

This is simply because of the current limited magatama and ornament set ups we have now, as well as assuming we're currently clearing Oushuu dungeons. I'm a bow, so probably a bit bias? Maybe, maybe not.

Bow obviously is broken as shit ever since Amaya period, on top of that, Dex is a broken stat that gives you every stat you "need" in the game. Now we got that out of the way.
Bow is easy mode clearing because high mob limit with Amaya. Unless you do some down syndrome build like Pierce. *Cough*I cri *cough* all bows have to do is build holy and get 6 Amayas, Icicle storm or Restriction for single target mobs and mobs that resist Amaya. Funny how that works eh?

Wand has untapped potential on this server, but I'm not gonna pry into that as much as others have already done.

Axe has a 100% slice scaling Asura, 300% damage up with DEC, they also have BFB which is convenient as a melee weapon, and the recently buff Rock Shattering Strike is pretty strong as well. The only downside is currently they have shit mob limit and have to use Wadatsumis. They fully ultilize Fated Contractor's and Avengers on Monsters ornament potential seeing how 2x crit and 2x slice is completely meta, even for skills that don't scale 1:1 with slice.

Spear is only up "this" high because they can actually make the 105 magatama. That being said, The buff to Spirit blast makes spear actually pretty strong, along side with the better normal skills of the game, Revolving blast, WDS, and Ice blossom. They clear pretty well and generally don't have many problems. Pretty well rounded Imo.

TS, Fuujin, fuujin, fuujin. Fuujin is fucking great. Other than the fact that I kill myself using it, but that's besides the point. Having Thunder beast is pretty great at low levels, however really starts to fall off without new magatama as it can't kill mobs in one TB anymore. Though pretty meh atm cause melee range and no one hit kills. Only slightly better than sword cause of good set of normal skills and a variety of elements to work with.

Sword got the shit kicked out of them THIS patch. You literally can't one shot anything with sword, and TB is literally balls. Basically run around TSBing and pray to god you don't skill ghost it. Expect sword to top tier again when new maga come out, rejoice!

Staff isn't actually that bad compared to other weapons this time around. With the help of 105 magatamas that six of the eight weapons can't craft yet. I was terribly disappointed in the damage with holy pillar, Granted I did give up early. I had 300% sf and 120% holy, so I kinda maybe expected more damage than I dished? Anyway Nether trap not bad as a clear skill seeing how the AoE radius is even bigger than Amaya (Hey how about that!), but other than supporting, not much going for them till maybe Ougi 5 comes out. (Crosses fingers)

Odachi is basciaaaally bottom bitch atm. They can't one hit kill things with the normal strats, and can only shoot meteors which has insane start up time. Maybe someone has some new tech I don't know, but the only odachi player I knew got his shit kicked in.

I might be lacking information about a few of these, but you get the general idea.

[Ryxa]

Was it 11%? I thought it was either 8 or 10%. (Not that this even matters)

[Miyako Tachibana]

Theres only 1 good affinity title thats for TS, even though it is a tad ironic. "Miyamoto Musashi" Title provides an amazing 60% TS Affinity! Psh Miyamoto, what happened to being a sword user >_>

[SupremeTentacle]

Mitamoto Musashi, in history, was supposed to be a dual blade user. Note that this is not equivalent to a twin sword user, as one of his swords was much shorter than the other.

That said, the 60% affinity + power bonus is something that only twin swords has the luxury of enjoying. No other weapon has access to as much potential affinity as twin swords.

[AtmaMoogle]

At least TS has a good affinity title. Spears, bows and axes don't have a title that gives them anything but affinity, Axe has to share Date Masamune with Swords/Odachi and even then is only 50%. Spear only has a 40% title with no other real benefits. Bows basically don't even get a title, they just back seat with Wands, Staff and Odachi.

Though my only REAL complaint is that there are so many useless titles in the game, when they could have promoted build diversity with affinity + element or something. Uesugi Kenshin was a good start, but we're missing out on the affinity part. Seeing as getting 6k affinity is close to impossible without a title. Getting 8k tis just a dream.

Also, limited title slots is fucking stupid. Like come on lol. How are you gonna limit players from actually keeping up with the people who got to it first, reasons why we need more titles that are useful. COUGH SHOUTOKU TAISHI COUGH. Seriously, 55 slots to hold all the Odachis/Wands/Staffs/and Bows on the server? (Bows don't even get anything other than holy off it).

[Miyako Tachibana]

Date Masamune gives 60% to Swords/Odachi/Axe actually. Secondly I dunno if people haven't noticed, but for swords theres Taira No Masakado, which provides 60% Sword Affinity, with some POW and MND. I'm surprised how many people havent filled that slot yet lol.

[Hercules]

Date Masamune gives 60% to Swords/Odachi/Ace actually. Secondly I dunno if people haven't noticed, but for swords theres Taira No Masakado, which provides 60% Sword Affinity, with some POW and MND. I'm surprised how many people havent filled that slot yet lol.

I'm one of the few players who have Taira No Masakado, even though its pretty worthless now, it would be more essential once the 8000 affinity cap comes out.

However I do feel Wands as far as DAMAGE ONLY will be at the top, especially because God's Sealing Circle. Only reason I chose not to go Wand was because of it's lack of mobility and the fact there is no guard option for it.

[Miyako Tachibana]

I'm one of the few players who have Taira No Masakado, even though its pretty worthless now, it would be more essential once the 8000 affinity cap comes out.

Yay Im not alone

[Ryxa]

I think I was second in the server after Kon (Who quit a long time ago) to get the Taira title, though I've traded it off in favor of other titles for now. It's an easy to get and very good basic title for sword users.

[SupremeTentacle]

@Hercules

I think that wands reign in more than just damage. Through the use of rank 5 skills, they can clear entire dungeons without the need for sp restoration, besides a few meditates. Furthermore, they're also extremely, extremely safe. You normally should not need the guard function, as its very easy to switch off aggro in a party, or turret from a safe distant. I think this function is more prevalent in the previous meta, as people attempting to solo carry often were put in more danger.

Guard is not always reliable anyways, cause ping related issues.

I do agree with you in the lack of mobility part though. Only sword/ts demonstrate high mobility at this exact point in time.