business says 'grind'

[Lylah]

lets.. talk about it. well lets not.

you came to this game... an mmorpg... and expected to not have to grind.

the joke is on you.

sorry this isnt a flash game. this is an mmo. you cant play for 12 hours, be lv 50, and be at endgame content.

you actually have to run a dungeon a few times to maybe get what you want. and maybe might mean 50, or never ever getting it. welcome to the world of mmos.

im so tired of hearing the same cries. i spent 7 years playing an mmo, trying to get a wep that i never ever got. welcome to reality.

thank you cyberstep, for making a game that has challange to it for the kids in elementary school enough, where maybe half the high schoolers cant comprehend things.... to where i need to carry people through room of rites when they are lv 14.

it only makes the game more valuable to someone like me. dont change too much.... even the xp..which honestly... i think is fine. no really. even as a healer... where i get less. its good. keep it this way. jp isnt na. they need their instant ramen. america can wait while water boils over the stove. and just like CB... our meta is better. because we actually care. and we actually sleep.

#business


ok... youll flame and discuss. mostly because your not on my level. go ahead. ill ignore it.

[Flirting]

lets.. talk about it. well lets not.

you came to this game... an mmorpg... and expected to not have to grind.

the joke is on you.

sorry this isnt a flash game. this is an mmo. you cant play for 12 hours, be lv 50, and be at endgame content.

you actually have to run a dungeon a few times to maybe get what you want. and maybe might mean 50, or never ever getting it. welcome to the world of mmos.

im so tired of hearing the same cries. i spent 7 years playing an mmo, trying to get a wep that i never ever got. welcome to reality.

thank you cyberstep, for making a game that has challange to it for the kids in elementary school enough, where maybe half the high schoolers cant comprehend things.... to where i need to carry people through room of rites when they are lv 14.

it only makes the game more valuable to someone like me. dont change too much.... even the xp..which honestly... i think is fine. no really. even as a healer... where i get less. its good. keep it this way. jp isnt na. they need their instant ramen. america can wait while water boils over the stove. and just like CB... our meta is better. because we actually care. and we actually sleep.

#business


ok... youll flame and discuss. mostly because your not on my level. go ahead. ill ignore it.

I pretty much agree with you on this one. I love how it is now. Even before the exp got doubled, it was just fine for me and my friends.

[Lylah]

Whoa watch out folks, we have a bad-ass in a casual grinder MMO.

watch out... we have sarcasm.

and let me tell you something...

odin hellmode, with 5 people. at lv 20-25 aint fucking casual.

go back to letting mom make your breakfest before school.

[Jung]

Whoa watch out folks, we have a bad-ass in a casual grinder MMO.

[Jung]

Whoa watch out folks, we have a bad-ass in a casual grinder MMO.

watch out... we have sarcasm.

and let me tell you something...

odin hellmode, with 5 people. aint fucking casual.

go back to letting mom make your breakfest before school.

Lose exp when you die? No.
Lose items when you die? No.
Item enhancement have any real failings except trying again/gold? No.
Lose anything when you die? No.
Can I just walk back to Odin in PT? Yes.
Did I get farther than Odin in JP? Yes.
Is Odin nothing to me in JP, since I went to see further content? #HipsterYes
Is OP mad I insulted his e-penor? Yes.

[Lylah]

Whoa watch out folks, we have a bad-ass in a casual grinder MMO.

watch out... we have sarcasm.

and let me tell you something...

odin hellmode, with 5 people. aint fucking casual.

go back to letting mom make your breakfest before school.

Lose exp when you die? No.
Lose items when you die? No.
Item enhancement have any real failings except trying again/gold? No.
Lose anything when you die? No.
Can I just walk back to Odin in PT? Yes.
Did I get farther than Odin in JP? Yes.
Is Odin nothing to me in JP, since I went to see further content? #HipsterYes
Is OP mad I insulted his e-penor? Yes.

is a jap mad this isnt jap server?

i think we have a winner.

welcome to america.

your in the wrong place asshole. JUST like cosmic break.

[Lylah]

its called catering to a demograph.

they know they cant do what they do in JP here. and are adjusting it accordingly.

you are in the wrong place.

go back to oniichans apartment with the shared wifi with half of your block.

and stay out of NA.

[Aister]

idc about the level rate, if it's 10x lower or even 20x, I don't really care. But at least fix the "recommended level" for dungeon.

I have played EN Alpha, and JP CBT and JP Official, so I can pretty much measure my strength through mobs in dungeons without having to look at my level compare to the mob's level. And being a bow user I can pretty much survive through most dungeons if I don't screw up. That's why I haven't grind a bit and have been advancing nicely through the story without grinding. However, those who are new to the game will be easily thrown off by the fact that they are asking u to go to a lvl 18 dungeon while u're still lvl 6. Most MMORPG doesn't require u to grind at least till level 30~40, and this game basically asking ppl to grind since level 1 which is unacceptable.

And then when they get to the "recommended level" the whole area will be too easy for them they can basically one hit everyone mobs and kill the boss easily. Pretty much anti-climatic and doesn't even worth all the grinding that they've been through. The disappointment alone will kill a lot of enjoyment for sure.

Oh and before u say anything, I used to play a lot of grinding-excessive (not even intensive anymore) including the traditional no-quest-just-grind games like MU Korean server which took me a whole month, 6 hours a day, to reach level 5. So ur argument about "u kids are just too used to the easy games, play some RPG and l2grind please" doesn't apply to me.

I'll just quote myself here

it doesn't matter if it asks u to grind since level 1, IF the level recommended for a dungeon is 10 and level 10 is good enough for it. Not

recommended level 10, omg I'm only level 2, let's grind until I'm 10 then.
*after grinding*
ok I'm level 10, let's get on with the quest
omg I can one hit them all, wtf this game is too easy
BORING!!

ggwp

[Lylah]

recomended level for the first dungeon in WoW is 13. since the mobs are lvl 8-13 elite.

you can enter at lv 8.

I DONT SEE A SINGLE DIFFERENCE.

you enter hard mode, and things are a few levels above you... what is the big deal?

recommended level is, really, if your dumb, and have shit gear, be this level, so you can actually beat it.

if you have half a brain... you can beat this place underleveled. oh your with people? even better, we will make it a tad bit harder,.... and reward you with MUCH better drops, and even rare drops you neeeeeed to be on this level of hardness to obtain.

this isnt anything new. infact, almost every party based game does this.

you people are OUTLANDISH. ya... you fucking asians can go look that shit up in an english dictionary. and pass 8th grade while your at it.

[Aister]

fucking...shit

welp, Idk if I'm Asian or not, but I'm pretty sure I'm not an uncivilized person, like some certain person.

I'm not going too much details in ur post, nor I would want to, since u're not worth talking to me