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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Lynneth » 24 Jul 2014, 04:09

Deathy wrote:As the Title say, I got tired being in party of people panic before they even reach the number 0, on Durability.

So cause Durability is special in the game, what happens when you do reach zero? Well I was gridning in an dungeon, to get weapon drops, to hopeful get the items I need, for something I am doing. and cause I have tons of spare staff, I decided to go ahead and let them hit the number zero, and use them After zero, to see what would happen.

To my Amazement I was able to use them actually like normally, I didn't notice max durability drop honestly, I didn't see the weapon break as so many say happen, I didn't had any real problem with repairing them also, I got them repaired just fine! (they then got some amazing repair and increase durability lol).

As a Pure Mind player/Healer, I only really done this with staff's, and I might make a new account just to test out all the other weapons.

Also I thought I would make a video of it, to avoid people thinking this might be an fake, to make an mass break weapon plot. Trust me, I would love to do something like that to Jerks to treat us Mind player like crap , cause Cyberstep doesn't let us have the most important tool as support should have (The skill Resurrection for those didn't know that was removed , cause Cyberstep want everyone to have soul egg mainly as their moneymaking tool.

Anyway, here the video, and don't be scare if your item reach the number Zero now in dungeons or panic when it almost out of durability, cause I been doing this many time now just letting them hit til they just miss. And YES you can miss with heals, ability, and auto attack (when your melee range no-less!).

What some Durability myth you heard? And if I think I can test it, I will.

But I can say if your weapon max durability does reach 0 , the Item DOES break, I know this very well.


Video link : http://youtu.be/2Ou_E5eoJOA

Edit : If the video isn't up on YT give it moment after this post was made, the video was processing!


I got my weapon to 0 durability and used it, though it BREAKS, it doesn't really break your weapon. It only lessen your max durability a bit. I don't know though, if it reaches zero.. will it REALLY break?
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Deathy » 24 Jul 2014, 04:26

Lynneth wrote:
Deathy wrote:As the Title say, I got tired being in party of people panic before they even reach the number 0, on Durability.

So cause Durability is special in the game, what happens when you do reach zero? Well I was gridning in an dungeon, to get weapon drops, to hopeful get the items I need, for something I am doing. and cause I have tons of spare staff, I decided to go ahead and let them hit the number zero, and use them After zero, to see what would happen.

To my Amazement I was able to use them actually like normally, I didn't notice max durability drop honestly, I didn't see the weapon break as so many say happen, I didn't had any real problem with repairing them also, I got them repaired just fine! (they then got some amazing repair and increase durability lol).

As a Pure Mind player/Healer, I only really done this with staff's, and I might make a new account just to test out all the other weapons.

Also I thought I would make a video of it, to avoid people thinking this might be an fake, to make an mass break weapon plot. Trust me, I would love to do something like that to Jerks to treat us Mind player like crap , cause Cyberstep doesn't let us have the most important tool as support should have (The skill Resurrection for those didn't know that was removed , cause Cyberstep want everyone to have soul egg mainly as their moneymaking tool.

Anyway, here the video, and don't be scare if your item reach the number Zero now in dungeons or panic when it almost out of durability, cause I been doing this many time now just letting them hit til they just miss. And YES you can miss with heals, ability, and auto attack (when your melee range no-less!).

What some Durability myth you heard? And if I think I can test it, I will.

But I can say if your weapon max durability does reach 0 , the Item DOES break, I know this very well.


Video link : http://youtu.be/2Ou_E5eoJOA

Edit : If the video isn't up on YT give it moment after this post was made, the video was processing!


I got my weapon to 0 durability and used it, though it BREAKS, it doesn't really break your weapon. It only lessen your max durability a bit. I don't know though, if it reaches zero.. will it REALLY break?



So when you attack with it your Lost Max Durability? I am abut confuse on the way you put your Message, I even posted a YT link of me and what happen of 4 staff hitting 0 around the same time frame, and you can notice I keep watch on the durability while I do thing with it, and It didn't lost any durability, and I use weapon until it Misses completely before I switch to new weapons so far in my testing.

Ibut if the Max durability does hit Zero the item will be destroyed (I know this from testing it on repairing wand at the beginning of the game just for SP regen and got bored and just use some durability of it repair it to see what happen to it reaching 0 max durability and the item was "lost" just like in smelting you don't get anything when it is wiped. That much I can say honestly.

As for using the weapon to 0 durability, It doesn't seem to change the Damage , I have yet to lose any durability and I say Yet cause I been trying provide info weither there is chance of you losing max durability when it hit zero, but So far it honestly hasn't as of 1000+ times, using new character to see if my Yoshi level is keeping me safe/pure luck...... and surprise nothing as of now.

If you want you can try using an junk item, or contact me ingame (same as forum) and I can give you ideal grinding spots to test weapon style. that be around worth while as your testing it for the sake of numbers!
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Velmoria » 24 Jul 2014, 08:43

Tested with Spear that have "Collapsing Blade IV" and equipped with Burai Magatama.
Out of 20 times test, none reduce max durability upon reaching 0 durability.

Repair results for 0 durability weapon as follow:

1. Good
2. Good
3. Good
4. Great
5. Bad
6. Bad
7. Bad
8. Good
9. Bad
10. Good
11. Good
12. Good
13. Good
14. Good
15. Good
16. Good
17. Good
18. Great
19. Good
20. Good

Still, getting 0 durability in middle of dungeon is not recommended for obvious reason. (I hate miss)
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Argentum » 24 Jul 2014, 09:04

Velmoria wrote:Still, getting 0 durability in middle of dungeon is not recommended for obvious reason. (I hate miss)


try using rusty bloom sake, it will allow you to continue using broken weapons - for example for spamming of collapsing blade for extended periods of time
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Deathy » 24 Jul 2014, 13:32

Argentum wrote:
Velmoria wrote:Still, getting 0 durability in middle of dungeon is not recommended for obvious reason. (I hate miss)


try using rusty bloom sake, it will allow you to continue using broken weapons - for example for spamming of collapsing blade for extended periods of time



If you watch my video , you see I had 4 staff using the same skill..... 2 missed over and over, while 2 kept hitting, then one start to miss - I started to notice this , some weapon can hit over and over.



Velmoria wrote:Tested with Spear that have "Collapsing Blade IV" and equipped with Burai Magatama.
Out of 20 times test, none reduce max durability upon reaching 0 durability.

Repair results for 0 durability weapon as follow:

1. Good
2. Good
3. Good
4. Great
5. Bad
6. Bad
7. Bad
8. Good
9. Bad
10. Good
11. Good
12. Good
13. Good
14. Good
15. Good
16. Good
17. Good
18. Great
19. Good
20. Good

Still, getting 0 durability in middle of dungeon is not recommended for obvious reason. (I hate miss)


Thank you for posting this , this help me test the 2nd theory with when Weapon hit 0 durability does it increase bad repairs chances. May I ask what your Yoshi tune level/your level? If I may also.


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Thank you for joining me in the test, make sure your get some sort screen shot of before and after / record of it incase there that slight chance of max durability truly being affect/the whole break.

for those don't know F21 is the Ingame screenshot!

and all files are put here normally : (for me at least) C:\CyberStep\Onigiri_US\ScreenShot
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Hinagiku Katsura » 24 Jul 2014, 14:25

excuse me Deathy don't forget f12 is in game screenshot too

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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Deathy » 24 Jul 2014, 14:53

Hinagiku Katsura wrote:excuse me Deathy don't forget f12 is in game screenshot too



yea sorry I didn't hit 2 by mistake, and I just got done taking my sleep shot and I'm still dizzy (was blurry earlier when I was typing)
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Velmoria » 24 Jul 2014, 17:43

My Yoshistune repair level is 6+1

I won't say that 0 durability increase Bad repair chance since it could be my luck. Although I'm believe that too, I prefer not believe on invisible chance number too much. Anyone can make a comparison of repair results between 0 durability and >0 durability.

Yes at first I was going to take screenshots, but it seems unnecessary.
I already tell the method. Collapsing Blade skill & magatama that increase "Weapon Wastage" like Burai Magatama.
Reckless Magatama is the best for test this, so anyone can test it by them self if they still believe that reaching 0 durability reduce weapon max durability.
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby Otonashi » 24 Jul 2014, 17:51

This is a Great Repair:
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This is what a Repair Fairy does to a Bad Repair:
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Re: tired of the "myth" and 0 durability "break items"

Postby The Pesky Crow » 24 Jul 2014, 18:44

So this is turning into agree with me or you don't know what your talking about eh?
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