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Postby Urvanis » 26 Jul 2014, 06:27

I understand that this is an eastern cultured game, but why limit skin tone? that has got to be the most simplest customization option one can provide, no different than hair color. I am black, and I like to make my main in my image. fortunately I have alt character incarnations that are not of toned skin(one of which is a male child, which is rare to be able to make in a game, and I'm grateful for). I see that there is a character of darker skin tone in the game's story, even a character with blue skin, so why not be able to create a character of differing tones?
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Rufei » 26 Jul 2014, 06:51

You have no idea how disappointed I am at the lack of a tan/brown skin tone.
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Vrenna » 26 Jul 2014, 07:39

"I understand that this is an eastern cultured game".

Were this game based on the actual people of the east, limiting skin tones to one, and the whitest possible would be absurd, as both by genetics and tanning they can achieve a HUGE variety of skin tones, and they are darker than in the game in average.

But well, let's analyse the situation:
This game is based on Anime, and Anime tends, most times, to create white people and represent japanese with lighter skin tones than they actually have on average. (bigger eyes, lighter skins, you know how it is).

You have to consider for Onigiri that this game is an Anime Representation of Japan Natives, which means that black people shouldn't be created for example. If you created a game like Onigiri but for african culture, for example, white people shouldn't be created, it's the same point of view, different cases, all a matter of setting.

BUT, in anime, different skin tones exist, even if they arent so frequent, and for all kinds of time settings (in my opinion I think it's because the artists are lazy to use different colors, I mean, they do a lot of things to minimize work), and so your point of complaint is completelly valid, considering that skin tones should still be limited to a certain variation, but, different from what we have now, there should be a variation.

But there's more, you see blonde ladies around (the lady that appears in the first dungeon, the training grounds? In European clothes and all?), european-like settings (the teleportation map for example, the street-lamps in Onigashima) and external culture/contemporary related stuff (internet and guns)... this game is more globalized than it should be. And the fact that characters in-game have darker skin tones just completelly support this complaint.
All of this gives this game no reason to limit skin tones to one (and the one we have now), I wont say to have all possible colors, since all characters are still natives of japan, without any kind of possible hybridization (or so it seems), since all of them are Onis. I haven't played to the end yet to learn more about the character origins, so there's more data to analyse here probably.

Anyway, I support this complaint vehemently. New tone skins must be added.
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Funaho » 27 Jul 2014, 00:07

Vrenna wrote:
You have to consider for Onigiri that this game is an Anime Representation of Japan Natives, which means that black people shouldn't be created for example. If you created a game like Onigiri but for african culture, for example, white people shouldn't be created, it's the same point of view, different cases, all a matter of setting.


It's fair to also remember that we are supposed to be playing Oni, not Humans. In anime as well as folklore, the most traditional skin colors for oni are red and blue. ... Not that I actually want my character to be either of those colors... but in conjunction with all of the hair choices, similarly-selectable skin tones would enable much richer personalization and make the crowded world more beautiful.
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Vrenna » 27 Jul 2014, 06:18

Funaho wrote:
Vrenna wrote:
You have to consider for Onigiri that this game is an Anime Representation of Japan Natives, which means that black people shouldn't be created for example. If you created a game like Onigiri but for african culture, for example, white people shouldn't be created, it's the same point of view, different cases, all a matter of setting.


It's fair to also remember that we are supposed to be playing Oni, not Humans. In anime as well as folklore, the most traditional skin colors for oni are red and blue. ... Not that I actually want my character to be either of those colors... but in conjunction with all of the hair choices, similarly-selectable skin tones would enable much richer personalization and make the crowded world more beautiful.


True, there's that, that Oni have those bizarre colors. Anyone reached the end of the game to learn more about these Oni? The only info I had was in a conversation with Ibaraki Douji when she says that supposedly there are Fake Oni and Real Oni, and our characters are sort of Fake. I don't remember if the word was actually fake, but well...
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Re: skin tone...

Postby MissRaynor » 27 Jul 2014, 11:37

Actually, I have to agree with him. Some people might want their character to look like an youkai, like yuki-onna or tengu or something like Momoutarou/Oppenheimer in the game. This way, the game will be more appealing to people. Also, CS can make more costume for some skin tone like Tengu costume or something like that... Good for both sides...
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Funaho » 27 Jul 2014, 13:27

Tengu face option would be very cool; if not that, then maybe a Tengu Mask accessory/costume option.
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Re: skin tone...

Postby ogre » 28 Jul 2014, 04:10

then please make a adult looking pleyable hero

i like anime as much as ani kid been watching them since 20 year ago ever since urutsukidoji in fact

but i dont see why all starting classes are kids except the muscle guy

maybe give muscle guy mustach or more adult looking cloths and some for female pleyable classes


as some ppl who says he plays female to not watch at the male but i also take offence at the fact out of the four only one is someone adlut looking

i started with anime mangas as they were called back then waaaay before many kids even were born and i have right to play as adult too


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Re: skin tone...

Postby Kinaro » 28 Jul 2014, 19:08

300% support this thread
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Re: skin tone...

Postby Shan » 29 Jul 2014, 00:40

Considering that this is based more off of shounen anime tropes, the younger appearances aren't surprising. The game is made in Japan, where the demographic appeal is quite different than in the US and the developers are working on what the Japanese demographic wants more than what we want. The models and customization are based on a different demographic appeal than ours.

Also, I have been watching anime and reading manga since the 80s, the customization is not that out of character for them, as anime and manga largely go with paler skin tones to save money, only investing in them to either make a point, stress wildly different ethnicity (look at some of the older anime portrayals of Africans and Native Americans, which are so stereotypical that it would be offensive in the US), or artistic choice. This game follows a more middle ground approach.
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