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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Rebecca » 27 Jul 2014, 19:53

K, then, question for you. Why do you need the exp? so you can brag about how you got to a high level by being useless? what does high level even mean in this game

When you're playing support, props to you cause you're PLAYING support. You're actually doing somewhat meaningful in this meaningless waste of time called mmo. If you're just opening oni to follow around and do nothing at all, there are way better pointless waste of times elsewhere. Don't you get bored watching almost nothing happen, routinely repeating itself every 5 or so minutes? If you enjoy that, might as well grab a can of paint and watch it dry.
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Lynneth » 27 Jul 2014, 21:16

Rebecca wrote:K, then, question for you. Why do you need the exp? so you can brag about how you got to a high level by being useless? what does high level even mean in this game

When you're playing support, props to you cause you're PLAYING support. You're actually doing somewhat meaningful in this meaningless waste of time called mmo. If you're just opening oni to follow around and do nothing at all, there are way better pointless waste of times elsewhere. Don't you get bored watching almost nothing happen, routinely repeating itself every 5 or so minutes? If you enjoy that, might as well grab a can of paint and watch it dry.


Needed the EXPERIENCE to stay on the same ground with others. With more level, survivability will be upped (more stat points), affinity to our main weapon will be more, and when not IN TEAM, I can SOLO to chase the EXP lost and LUCKY BOXES when fighting with team.

You know what, the only one who got ALL THE LUCKY BOXES ARE THE ATTACKER, not the SUPPORT., and IN THE LONG RUN, the effect WILL WIDEN, widen and widen. Because LUCKY BOXES CONTAIN FORTUNE AMULETS that can MAKE OUR SMELTING AND UPGRADING OUR LIFE EASIER.

Support only get 1/3 EXP, when we also need to MAINTAIN the HP/SP and buffs protecting the team and NO LUCKY BOXES. Do you think it's fair that we only get 1/3 OF the EXP and we also drink SP Pots when NO ONE would care our SP?
Do you think US support DON'T HAVE A LIFE? If you think SUPPORT only SUPPORTING people like you, or JUST LEECHING? well, NO, thank you then :cry:

The only solution would be we will play with our friends only, not just random strangers.

Burning the oil with fire, resurrection spells are also removed in this game which can make 'support' more useful. You know why? :D :roll:
And with miniscule damage of staffs, and the spells that come within it.

The only good spells would be Holy Pillar for staffs. (Hopefully, we can cast it freely...) :lol: :lol:
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Rebecca » 27 Jul 2014, 21:56

Wow, thanks for putting so much broken Engrish into my mouth

When did I say the support can only be support?

When did I say the current system is fair?

When did I say C$ is not stupid?

So... your logic is.... instead of being support, I will be completely useless, and wait for a point when I'm mentally ready to one shot everything....

>Support only get 1/3 EXP, when we also need to MAINTAIN the HP/SP and buffs protecting the team and NO LUCKY BOXES. Do you think it's fair that we only get 1/3 OF the EXP and we also drink SP Pots when NO ONE would care our SP?
So... being useless get you 3/3 EXP. Being useless gets you LUCKY BOXES. SP pots cost alot of money in this game, and being useless get you more than 1/3 OF the EXP.

>Do you think US support DON'T HAVE A LIFE?
When did I say supports don't have life? I'm condemning useless leaches not having a life, if anything.

>If you think SUPPORT only SUPPORTING people like you, or JUST LEECHING? well, NO, thank you then
Engrish plz???

>The only solution would be we will play with our friends only, not just random strangers
So playing with friends you don't get 1/3 OF the EXP when supporting... got it

>Burning the oil with fire, resurrection spells are also removed in this game which can make 'support' more useful. You know why?
Cause C$ are stupid greedy bastards. That's established long ago

Anyways, my main point in my rant, is even if you're leaching, be useful and help around. If all you're going to do is to be useless leaches then get a life.
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Lynneth » 28 Jul 2014, 03:24

Rebecca wrote:Wow, thanks for putting so much broken Engrish into my mouth

When did I say the support can only be support?

When did I say the current system is fair?

When did I say C$ is not stupid?

So... your logic is.... instead of being support, I will be completely useless, and wait for a point when I'm mentally ready to one shot everything....

>Support only get 1/3 EXP, when we also need to MAINTAIN the HP/SP and buffs protecting the team and NO LUCKY BOXES. Do you think it's fair that we only get 1/3 OF the EXP and we also drink SP Pots when NO ONE would care our SP?
So... being useless get you 3/3 EXP. Being useless gets you LUCKY BOXES. SP pots cost alot of money in this game, and being useless get you more than 1/3 OF the EXP.

>Do you think US support DON'T HAVE A LIFE?
When did I say supports don't have life? I'm condemning useless leaches not having a life, if anything.

>If you think SUPPORT only SUPPORTING people like you, or JUST LEECHING? well, NO, thank you then
Engrish plz???

>The only solution would be we will play with our friends only, not just random strangers
So playing with friends you don't get 1/3 OF the EXP when supporting... got it

>Burning the oil with fire, resurrection spells are also removed in this game which can make 'support' more useful. You know why?
Cause C$ are stupid greedy bastards. That's established long ago

Anyways, my main point in my rant, is even if you're leaching, be useful and help around. If all you're going to do is to be useless leaches then get a life.


lol, I'm using English and you don't understand :lol: . So I should Engrish then?

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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Rufei » 28 Jul 2014, 03:52

Lynneth wrote:Do you think it's fair that we only get 1/3 OF the EXP and we also drink SP Pots when NO ONE would care our SP?

Sadly it's true in the general case, but I do my best to invig trade and I know others do so. That being said, high end healers end up having so much SP regen that they don't need invig barring edge cases.
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Lynneth » 28 Jul 2014, 04:42

Rufei wrote:
Lynneth wrote:Do you think it's fair that we only get 1/3 OF the EXP and we also drink SP Pots when NO ONE would care our SP?

Sadly it's true in the general case, but I do my best to invig trade and I know others do so. That being said, high end healers end up having so much SP regen that they don't need invig barring edge cases.


You're a good one sir :). You deserve a gold medal :D. Well, high-end healers has so much SP and recovery, also some are also upping Wis, so there would be no SP problems for them. :D
That's what I expect, most of the people that understand automatically invig each other :p.
The problem starts when I need to support 3 people altogether without invig from other support/attacker. But in my case, if supporting 2 attackers (heal HP/SP and full Buffs) I can do it fine. Especially long-range attacker or one long range and one spear still okay (SP is not a problem), especially those that play flawlessly. But low level.. it's a problem because our SP regen is not enough. :D
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Heimarmene » 28 Jul 2014, 12:20

Rebecca wrote:K, then, question for you. Why do you need the exp? so you can brag about how you got to a high level by being useless? what does high level even mean in this game

When you're playing support, props to you cause you're PLAYING support. You're actually doing somewhat meaningful in this meaningless waste of time called mmo. If you're just opening oni to follow around and do nothing at all, there are way better pointless waste of times elsewhere. Don't you get bored watching almost nothing happen, routinely repeating itself every 5 or so minutes? If you enjoy that, might as well grab a can of paint and watch it dry.


why do I need the exp? Because leveling addiction duh :P. JK. But yeah on a serious note (or as serious I'll ever get), because leveling is fun. It's just like seeing that victory screen in league or dota. There's no real reason for wanting to level up just like there's no real reason for wanting to win in league or dota but everyone wants it just the same.

And plus it's stupid that supports shoot themselves in the foot when they support. I mean the lame damage is one thing but having to shoot yourself in the foot is a whole different matter altogether.
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Hisashiburi » 28 Jul 2014, 12:44

Rufei wrote:That being said, high end healers end up having so much SP regen that they don't need invig barring edge cases.


Hmm, i dont know about this. But my SP recovery cant get higher than 500.
I got 50 SP everytime it's regenerating (about every 9-10 seconds)
Anyway, i give my full respect to pure support than.... what do we call it? leecher? fake support?
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby Rebecca » 28 Jul 2014, 12:45

You don't realize how much easier C$ made support compare to other mmo. In other mmo, you draw instant agro by supporting the people luring. Here, you can do whatever you want and as long as the mobs don't reset, you won't get agro at all. Also in other mmo the range of support spells is at most the auto attack range, or range of most other spells. Some of them even lower to increase risk of improper supporting. Here, the range for heal, invigorate, and speed up is so massive that it over ranges the maximum autoattack range by quite abit. Are you telling me supports are this much harder to play even with so many benefits? Seriously the only times I see supports die is either the carry try to be too greedy and walked out of the mob's maximum mobility range, or if the support is being stupid and unaware, with the latter happening 95% of the time when you're teamed with people who knows what they're doing
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Hisashiburi wrote:
Rufei wrote:That being said, high end healers end up having so much SP regen that they don't need invig barring edge cases.


Hmm, i dont know about this. But my SP recovery cant get higher than 500.
I got 50 SP everytime it's regenerating (about every 9-10 seconds)
Anyway, i give my full respect to pure support than.... what do we call it? leecher? fake support?


I even give respect to fake supports cause they're freaking doing something.
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Re: Fix the Healer Class

Postby meep » 28 Jul 2014, 18:14

"Fake supports"
Way to discriminate people who try
Player skills aside, the only requirement to being support is having a staff, healing/buffing skills and the player in question actively using them to aid the party.

As for the whole xp issue and lucky box thing
You still get full drops and ryou
Support is not hard to play in this game, though initially it is a rough start, the only real obstacle is sp
Leveling raises max sp cap, choosing kind gives high mnd and wis bonuses, and both these stats raise sp recovery while wis will reduce spell costs each ten points

There is also a magatama most suitable for assisting in consecutive skill use
Idezumi magatama, which I believe takes off 15 sp costs
4 of these would reduce 60 sp cost from all skills

With the sp issue aside it is only a matter of grinding for the right staff
And learning to keep a safe distance from mobs
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