Fix the Healer Class

[meep]

Nope
Supporters are supporters
It's only people who take it for granted who think supporters are more or less leechers

Have you ever had mashed potatoes without mayo or tuna sandwiches without mayo
Uber difference

Yes.
Supporters are mayo.
They compliment the flavor

The quality of the mayo is important.
And the tuna.

[Heimarmene]

You are so right
It is absolutely impossible to find a party with "no leechers, support only"
Why couldn't I have known before?
Truly I offer you my sincerest apologies
Because there is no way to check if a support has the proper mnd

.. Hang on a second
Sanctuary, Heal, Cure, and buff duration times
Oh it turns out you CAN check for a proper support
Also you can even recruit a team of supporters or carries YOURSELF

This is just GAME CHANGING oh my god and therefore I take back my apology

I have no idea why you're arguing for the sake of leechers anyways. It makes no sense at all that supports do work to get the same reward as someone who doesn't. Heck, if we translate it into the real world, it's the same as paying so you can work for them. And as far as I know, there's no one that would willingly do that, so why are supports forced to do such things?

And as far as I can tell, the only reason someone would argue for the leechers like this would be if they were leeching as well.

[meep]

Funny
When did I argue anything for the sake of leechers
I've been working my ass off to get you people to grow maybe half a testicle

You have issues with leechers getting more xp than you
So I told you

Don't play with them

Hey did you catch that? Do you need all caps?

What part of that was hard to understand
I'm starting to doubt your wisdom oh great one

And you accuse me of leeching?
The way you imply it you'd think it was a crime
FYI I have leeched before
Ohh now I must be condemned
But no. Read. And form your utopian leech-free parties

Ass

[Lynneth]

Wow, I never though this thread has become popular in one day

Nope
Supporters are supporters
It's only people who take it for granted who think supporters are more or less leechers

Have you ever had mashed potatoes without mayo or tuna sandwiches without mayo
Uber difference

Yes.
Supporters are mayo.
They compliment the flavor

The quality of the mayo is important.
And the tuna.

lol. . Hello buddies . I'd like to order one plate of tuna sandwiches, both with mayo and without mayos. Ok.

Last I checked, even level 80+ people still get 2 shot by the mobs in Secluded Forest. Sure they can run it through by themselves but they'll be burning through potions and revivals to do so. Assuming they do run it themselves, they're not only going to be getting less EXP (because deaths are very possible when getting 2 shot is a reality) and they're also going to be running it slower. Idaten's grace means less time is spent traveling, invigorate and cures means not stopping to pot up thus faster runs happen.

That being said, I'm saying supports should not be treated the same as leechers. In fact, supports are generally worse off than leechers in almost all cases. Not only are you burning your own pots, you're using durability, missing out on the stray mobs (less exp), and you're also very liable to getting killed by stray mobs. The sight range means that there's a maximum range that supports can be at (unlike leechers who can never move a step and still be fine) so you're naturally close to the fight. Recall how I said even the carries tend to get 2 shot in SF? Yeah, supports tend to be a lower level than the carry (and far squishier because no vit) so we're prone to getting 1 shot. Now tell me how it's fair that the leechers get more exp, and be safer than the support while doing absolutely nothing.

Oh and easy way? Try soloing the content with staff skills. You're going to hate life when you try. Sure you CAN solo things but it'll take you the next hour and a half to do so. And btw, I do use a wand and I can tell you that it's far easier doing things with a wand than with a staff.

tl;dr: carries do their stuff, supports do theirs. No reason supports should have to shoot themselves in the foot for supporting, especially when leechers don't shoot themselves in the foot for leeching.

This game is totally unique, and the only game that I can see healers as leechers .

Well, meep's point of view is correct. The game design of Onigiri.. we can't change it, unless the developers change it. No matter how hard we try. And frontliners also need those leechers, so why not? Even protesting will give nothing. But it doesn't mean that I support this kind of system though. Only I appreciate someone point of view.

Make the leeching business official by the devs, so both parties win. Both the support and the leecher has his/her benefit.

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Heimarmene's point of view is also correct, we need to propose to the devs, make the "class" more differentiable by doing something like perks. Not just "type" = reliable, kind, defensive, cautious.

Adding some new attack skills to pure MIND players will be welcomed.
Adding some new buffs skills to high MND players is also welcomed.
Adding some cross-over skills which support the hybrid type is also welcomed.

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In this game, we can be anything, anyone since there's no actual offical class though. Even as daring we can go the path of 'kind', and this applies to all. Just depend on the people playing it, does he/she want it?

Conclusion, why not make the best use of this kind of system? Since I believe in the mean time they are busy fixing bugs, adding contents, we work together to level up, both by leeching and leveraging each other. . I prefer to solo party though :p. Unless I know who I am partying with. It's longer road, takes much more time. But well, I enjoy it

Make the 'carry' system official
Make the party system more beneficial

[Rebecca]

Somehow I feel like some of the people here are perfect to work at fox news cause the last comment definitely reminded me of this segment

"OMG these people on government pensions and food stamps, they don't have jobs yet they're eating lobsters. OMG LOBSTERS WHY DO WE HAVE TO WORK FOR OUR FOOD AND THEY GET FREE LOBSTERS WHYYYYYY NERF PLZZZZZ!!!!!!!!"

[Lynneth]

Somehow I feel like some of the people here are perfect to work at fox news cause the last comment definitely reminded me of this segment

"OMG these people on government pensions, they don't have jobs yet they're eating lobsters. OMG LOBSTERS WHY DO WE HAVE TO WORK FOR OUR FOOD AND THEY GET FREE LOBSTERS WHYYYYYY NERF PLZZZZZ!!!!!!!!"

Taking arrow on the knee, Miss Rebecca? Or you're a pure genius troll? . On another note, Lobsters are delicious when you prepare it well done .

Also tuna sandwiches. With mayo please. I'm getting hungry right now.

[Rebecca]

I'm being serious. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/03/14 ... od-stamps/

Almost the same type of convo

Edit, i do apologize to you, its not you i was targeting, its to Heimarmene.

[meep]

Well
Now I have another site to frequent apart from cracked.com
Many thanks

Lynneth is such a dear though

[Lynneth]

Recent achievement clearing Shinoda Forest (Hard) solo in 18 minutes using 'healer class' at lv.40. It was when I leveled up to lv.41.



When I have strong enough staffs/wands, plan to run solo Hell, Shinoda Forest

[Deathy]

Recent achievement clearing Shinoda Forest (Hard) solo in 18 minutes using 'healer class' at lv.40. It was when I leveled up to lv.41.



When I have strong enough staffs/wands, plan to run solo Hell, Shinoda Forest

you don't need a powerful staff/wand ._. I still use a bloody level 5 oak staff with rank 4 holy Pillar/holy Light - so >.<