Question & Answer Thread

[Leobreaker322]

more questions :


- is there possibility of rank 8,9 and 10 skills to be introduced in the upcoming Tuesday's update? I do have magatama like Strawberry and Pisces which are kind of rusting in Shizuka storage, and would like to know if they can be used after the Edo release.

- Since I'm lacking ougis at all ( thanks a lot unlucky gacha *face desk*) need to know that is it possible to grind further without ougis? sad that even after grinding 80 levels I'm still not having a single ougi. RNG -.-

[Tihealy]

How does Momotaro's skill evolution/extraction actually work? I've been stressing this for a while now. Two skills on my Excalibur reached their maximum level, and I'd love to extract them before working on a new weapon, but they just don't appear in the selection.

Give Momo a few levels.

Okai. Shall try.

More specifically, Lv8 for Rank I, 11 for II, 14 for III, 17 for IV and 21 for V.

i gotta say bullcrap on this one, my momotarou is lvl 21 and i try to extract steal attack III, and as mentioned you said lvl 14 .. but my skill level of my Steal Attack III is 23, so how i can't extract it? only option that show up for me for twin sword is poison fang I .. but why it doesn't show up for steal attack?

[Tekato]

i gotta say bullcrap on this one, my momotarou is lvl 21 and i try to extract steal attack III, and as mentioned you said lvl 14 .. but my skill level of my Steal Attack III is 23, so how i can't extract it? only option that show up for me for twin sword is poison fang I .. but why it doesn't show up for steal attack?

Steal attack is a special skill like ougis it's unextractable.

[Tihealy]

i gotta say bullcrap on this one, my momotarou is lvl 21 and i try to extract steal attack III, and as mentioned you said lvl 14 .. but my skill level of my Steal Attack III is 23, so how i can't extract it? only option that show up for me for twin sword is poison fang I .. but why it doesn't show up for steal attack?

Steal attack is a special skill like ougis it's unextractable.

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[Firon]

Just want to confirm some things about steal attack:

Is this verified? The statement "raise the item drop rate by X times" can be interpreted in two ways ("raises by" in the same sense that a 100% boost raises to 200% or "by" in the sense of multiplication)

Also, I've been assuming that steal attack only affects the user but have never actually confirmed this so am wondering if anyone has (or confirmed this is true for any other skill card set one skills such as coin explosion or card captor)

-If this is the case, then it would be better to run plover in a pt only if only one person has steal attack or you can run it in a pt 2 or 3 times faster than solo :/

Thx in advance :)

[Tihealy]

Just want to confirm some things about steal attack:

Is this verified? The statement "raise the item drop rate by X times" can be interpreted in two ways ("raises by" in the same sense that a 100% boost raises to 200% or "by" in the sense of multiplication)

Also, I've been assuming that steal attack only affects the user but have never actually confirmed this so am wondering if anyone has (or confirmed this is true for any other skill card set one skills such as coin explosion or card captor)

-If this is the case, then it would be better to run plover in a pt only if only one person has steal attack or you can run it in a pt 2 or 3 times faster than solo :/

Thx in advance

äre you impying it's better to run Plover Pit Normal over Daiku Cave Hard for the Orange Marble ?

[Lynneth]

äre you impying it's better to run Plover Pit Normal over Daiku Cave Hard for the Orange Marble ?

In my experience, yes.

I've gotten two orange glass marbles in 6 runs of plover and haven't really farmed much there since then.

As for daiku -.- no idea how long but I've never gotten an orange glass marble there and I've heard the drop rate is ridiculously low.

Tried daiku for few hours : no orange marbles

Tried plover with parties : no orange marbles either.

I guess it's just a matter of RNG-god, if you please it, you might earn even at your 1st attempt

[Firon]

äre you impying it's better to run Plover Pit Normal over Daiku Cave Hard for the Orange Marble ?

In my experience, yes.

I've gotten two orange glass marbles in 6 runs of plover and haven't really farmed much there since then.

As for daiku -.- no idea how long but I've never gotten an orange glass marble there and I've heard the drop rate is ridiculously low.

[Tihealy]

Well, i got a Twin Swords with +4% item gain boost, but idk if it will do a big difference using Steal Attack III with that TS or not :/ instead of a Normal TS with Steal Attack III

[Annette]

Daiku and Plover are a bit hard to compare. The drop rate for marbles in either dungeon is so low that you'd need to track thousands of runs before you got a statistically relevant comparison. Cinder and I have done plenty of Daiku/Plover farming together and I've gotten all three of my Orange Marbles from Daiku while she has gotten both of hers from Plover. It's just luck; farm what you prefer.

Is this verified? The statement "raise the item drop rate by X times" can be interpreted in two ways ("raises by" in the same sense that a 100% boost raises to 200% or "by" in the sense of multiplication)

Also, I've been assuming that steal attack only affects the user but have never actually confirmed this so am wondering if anyone has (or confirmed this is true for any other skill card set one skills such as coin explosion or card captor)

-If this is the case, then it would be better to run plover in a pt only if only one person has steal attack or you can run it in a pt 2 or 3 times faster than solo :/

Thx in advance

From my personal experience of many, many hours farming Daiku and Plover with a friend...

Steal Attack only increases drop rates for the person who uses it and it seems to work multiplicatively; you're nearly doubling the item drops with Steal Attack III. Sadly this is just another reason to do things solo.

Well, i got a Twin Swords with +4% item gain boost, but idk if it will do a big difference using Steal Attack III with that TS or not :/ instead of a Normal TS with Steal Attack III

I've heard that item drop rate stacks multiplicatively but it's such a rare stat to come across in any meaningful amount that it's difficult to test. If it's true this would mean you'd be seeing 1.872x drops rather than 1.84x with that 4% base stat... or even up to 2.43x if you included the daily log in boost rather than 2.14x which is a bit more noticeable. Again, just something I've heard but haven't done much testing with myself. In any case yes that 4% additional item drop will improve Steal Attack.