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[Don Lelouch]

Fuuri must always be written in it's entirety. That is, "Fuuri Magatam" XD

btw, are you putting down the main magatama used for each weapon type?
Because if you're putting down all of them... well, there's about 400.
I think Fuuri for 30-50 is way overpriced given that it can be infinite farmed (at Room of Rites). 20oc is the most that I'd buy it for but 18 oc is pretty standard from what I've seen, probably because a lot of ppl seemed to pick them up at byakkou.
Also, literature for min is 64 if it's clean if that's what you meant. It's pretty easy to make so you might want to put down the min price of its key mat: Red-Purple glass marble~15oc
Some things to add to the list are banana magatama and pineapple magatama for bow sf which afaik, usually go for about 50-80. They have ridiculously low drop rates :/

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Just wanted say my opinion: THIS IS BIG BULLSH!T.
Creating a list of "prices" because afraid of price decrease while most ppl goona have those "SH!T" in tons and will sell it for MinimalPrice.
Unfortully explain me this. Why "Lv80gold ougi weapon g100+100" exacly have price like Yours Dragon Spears which you trying sell fkin overpriced?
Im really sorry but greed really control ppl which trying even made list of "Min prices" lol.
Useless topic because on any case everyone will sell for any price which wants. Otherwise if someone is "retarded" and trying sell overpriced stuff on simply thing nobody will take this from him.

Kaze'aze you are just hypocrite, give the majority a favor and do not give ideas based on your greed into Forum. Tyvm

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[Kaze'aze]

Just wanted say my opinion: THIS IS BIG BULLSH!T.
Creating a list of "prices" because afraid of price decrease while most ppl goona have those "SH!T" in tons and will sell it for MinimalPrice.
Unfortully explain me this. Why "Lv80gold ougi weapon g100+100" exacly have price like Yours Dragon Spears which you trying sell fkin overpriced?
Im really sorry but greed really control ppl which trying even made list of "Min prices" lol.
Useless topic because on any case everyone will sell for any price which wants. Otherwise if someone is "retarded" and trying sell overpriced stuff on simply thing nobody will take this from him.

Kaze'aze you are just hypocrite, give the majority a favor and do not give ideas based on your greed into Forum. Tyvm[/quote]

stfu dont type on my posts if you have nothing good to contribute to with your stupid ass

[Don Lelouch]

stfu dont type on my posts if you have nothing good to contribute to with your stupid ass

I write this as an user for 21 years, but I have to say this: Players HAVE to respect each other.
But it's seems You are a kid Kaze'aze and You had a "Rage Kid Syndrome".
Write to someone "stfu" because you blood pressure increases in your body when I turn attention to the fact You making a "SALES PRICES,IDEAS, ETC FOR NEW SELLERS" list whereby most/all the prices are set by You and that how much You want earn from that.
Like I said I saw many things which was set for Min Price and most things which was cheaper than in Your "List" and I saw more than one player which sells those.
Everyone would/will/want sell for any price which wants. If you Kaze choose to sell Chiami Maga for 40 oc and somebody else gonna choose to sell it for Min Price it's gonna be crime? No, it's person choice. Same with if somebody want sell that for 70 OCs. It's personal choice which we had and making senseless pricing list is just useless.
For me it is as if you impose your order for how much me and others must sell stuff, just because that is what you are selling it seemed the normal price when all align prices.

Back to first thing. It's forum and here there is freedom of speech. In contrast to you, I'll respect you like a player. But it's seems You don't respect me. I had YOU as a hypocrite but now additionally I got you per child.

[Kaze'aze]

Just wanted say my opinion: THIS IS BIG BULLSH!T.
Creating a list of "prices" because afraid of price decrease while most ppl goona have those "SH!T" in tons and will sell it for MinimalPrice.
Unfortully explain me this. Why "Lv80gold ougi weapon g100+100" exacly have price like Yours Dragon Spears which you trying sell fkin overpriced?
Im really sorry but greed really control ppl which trying even made list of "Min prices" lol.Useless topic because on any case everyone will sell for any price which wants. Otherwise if someone is "retarded" and trying sell overpriced stuff on simply thing nobody will take this from him.

Kaze'aze you are just hypocrite, give the majority a favor and do not give ideas based on your greed into Forum. Tyvm

i only gave you a piece of my mind, you have no respect for me so i have none for you wanna talk bout rage?, look in the mirror kiddo.
u cant just walk into a discussion and talk like u got piss in your mouth if you have nothing good to say walk away when you see my posts cause i will only make you look like a fool. period. walk away

[Don Lelouch]

stfu dont type on my posts if you have nothing good to contribute to with your stupid ass

I write this as an user for 21 years, but I have to say this: Players HAVE to respect each other.
But it's seems You are a kid Kaze'aze and You had a "Rage Kid Syndrome".
Write to someone "stfu" because you blood pressure increases in your body when I turn attention to the fact You making a "SALES PRICES,IDEAS, ETC FOR NEW SELLERS" list whereby most/all the prices are set by You and that how much You want earn from that.
Like I said I saw many things which was set for Min Price and most things which was cheaper than in Your "List" and I saw more than one player which sells those.
Everyone would/will/want sell for any price which wants. If you Kaze choose to sell Chiami Maga for 40 oc and somebody else gonna choose to sell it for Min Price it's gonna be crime? No, it's person choice. Same with if somebody want sell that for 70 OCs. It's personal choice which we had and making senseless pricing list is just useless.
For me it is as if you impose your order for how much me and others must sell stuff, just because that is what you are selling it seemed the normal price when all align prices.

Back to first thing. It's forum and here there is freedom of speech. In contrast to you, I'll respect you like a player. But it's seems You don't respect me. I had YOU as a hypocrite but now additionally I got you per child.

You gave piece of Your mind >Idea> I gave my opinion about it> Reasons why it's useless.

you have no respect for me so i have none for you wanna talk bout rage?,

and there's

stfu dont type on my posts if you have nothing good to contribute to with your stupid ass

Everything what I said about You is already in previous post. Read it carefully hypocrite Kaze'aze Kid

[Sheiko]

@Kaze'aze
U might need to remove those Lvl 80 and below weapons from the list, it ain't usefull at all cuz the weapons price is based on how hard it is to farm and make it +100g100 with the current end-game weapons on price difference of the current patch.(Those Lvl 80 and below weapons ain't worth it based on ur price, plus the price shud be much more lower now and it ain't worth estimating it on the list)
(Some ppl got their own personal opinion for prices, but what about Lvl80 Dragon Spear+100g100?)


@Don Lelouch
I do agree with ur opinion, but can u lay low on the insults? (I said "Stop Tickling Furry Unicorn = STFU" lots of times)
Indeed tryin to post the price and kept it as forum spread is not recommended, plus some ppl might see the list as an annoyance since it will also make some ppl believe tht's their price but it's actually much lower.
But if u want someone with much better knowledge regarding price other than Kaze'aze to make the list, u might as well ask em to make it(Seriously, it's such a pain in the neck to make it and it's a waste of time since price will change most of the times). You should also try reasoning with Kaze'aze about the price if it's wrong, don't juz go straight and bash out an insult suddenly.


My Personal Comment: @Kaze'aze
Is this price list really worth making?
If it does worth it, are u sure as an Original Poster u will be able to edit the first post almost everytime(assuming u wont quit Onigiri Online)
And also if u really are head on straight tryin to make this list succesfull, might as well not to make the the range of weapons price. You should put every list of Gold Weap at their max individually.

Either make it like this:-
Lorelai+100g100 = ???oc
Nothung+100g100 = ???oc
Lunasymphony+100g100 = ???oc <<< (Seriously, no one want to make em even for 1500oc now)
Eternal Force Blizzard+100g100 = ???oc

If you really edit it at wrong price, then some ppl might #%&@ at u...

[QueQue]

Going to have to agree with Don Lelouch on this one. Seems to me like you're saddened by the fact that you don't like matching your prices with other people's cheap prices. But w/e I'm just going to add in some of my own thoughts on this and if there are any overlaps with other people, I apologize.

You mentioned that it causes "harmful competition". So let me get this straight, you want everyone to match their prices and sell at a certain price because you think competition is harmful? LOL wtf how is competition harmful? It's normal to have competition in a free market. Competition will continue to exist as long as there are other people that sell products similar to yours. Think about it, Person A is selling an apple for 1 dollar. Person B is also selling an apple for 1 dollar. FFS 50 other people are selling an apples for 1 dollar. Sure they all decided to match their prices...but who will the consumer buy it from? YEA THERE IS GOING TO BE COMPETITION even with set prices among each item.

Why you hating on a playa for selling an item for a cheaper price than average? Nigga please..Playa just trying to get some C more quickly.
^ You see that? ^
Yea that's the logic behind selling an item cheap. The rate in which you can sell your item is much faster if you sell your item cheaper than average market value. Instead of hating on these people saying that they're the cause of price depreciation, just accept the fact that this is also normal. You can see this in other online video games as well as in the real world's market.
You need a quick buck? Go sell your services/products cheap.

Example: Ralphs across the street is selling 6 packs of beer for 7 dollars? Holy fuckk..this is bad we need some fast money or else we won't be able to pay this months rent. Yo fuck it..let's just sell ours for 6 dollars and make some fast money.

Sure selling beer for 6 dollars isn't as profitable as selling it for 7 dollars but profit isn't the main priority here. It's the speed in how fast you want your money by. Sure this may cause price depreciation when other stores decide to sell their beer for 6 dollars. But as soon as people start buying beer for 6 dollars and stores start seeing profits being made. Prices are bound to bounce back up to 7. In case you forgot why I was giving that example about Ralphs and beer, it's because people selling their product/services cheaper than market value to get a quick buck is a NATURAL part of business.
Selling for losses? Nah seems more like getting some fast c and getting shit done to me.

You also mentioned something about rip offs? Umm I thought we were talking in the producer's perspective aka the seller? So the sellers are being ripped off for selling their items cheap is that it? Yo I mentioned it just now and I'm going to repeat it, JUST GETTING SHIT DONE PLAYAAAA. Scams? uhh how are producers selling consumer's by selling cheap? Kills the market? THIS IS HOW THE MARKET FUNCTIONS.

Friendly advice for this guide. Generalizing prices of weapons by their level,+100 enhancement, ougi is stupid. Be more specific please. Just because apples(Spears) are being sold for 1 dollar doesn't mean bananas(Twin Swords) are also going to be 1 dollar. Sure they can be substitute goods but you have to keep in mind about consumer preference as well.

I don't mind you trying to set up a little guide for newer players to help them price their items, but don't be telling sellers that they're selling too cheap and its hurting the market. Oh and your idea #3 sucks. wtf? Trying to get others to pay for ornamentation INCASE outcome isn't great? LOL yo this world ain't fucking rainbows and flowers, you risk shit you earn shit. This is a business.


Credibility: Vice manager of my family business. Joint Mathematics/Econ Major. UCSD baby.

[Kaze'aze]

i will try to not read the long essays you guys have typed. makes my head swirl. now 1st of all the pricelist i put has "or best offer" at the end meaning it can be lower or exact. second i put a link down for those who want to edit the list but seems some dumbasses like louch are only concentrated on arguing in the forum to even see it. and finally if you wanna know how harmfulit is fefe, pay attention to the above comments ie. unnecesary arguements by louch. some stuff never sells cause if someone puts his 350oc worth weapon up for 150 oc just so he can sell his faster , it makes the value of whoever else' go down. yes maybe a little generousity but the least they can do it sell it privately, not put it next to a similar stall

[Sheiko]

I usually buy some stuff at OP price as long as they are goin to be useful for me(seriously, i'm very picky)...
And i always sell stuff at effing low price...

and finally if you wanna know how harmfulit is fefe, pay attention to the above comments ie. unnecesary arguements by louch. some stuff never sells cause if someone puts his 350oc worth weapon up for 150 oc just so he can sell his faster , it makes the value of whoever else' go down. yes maybe a little generousity but the least they can do it sell it privately, not put it next to a similar stall

So~
I'm not allowed to sell good enchant weapon at low prices?
Sorry, but i suggest you discontinue this effort right now...
Putting a similar item but with prices to be compared is also one of basic market strategy to sell stuff quick.
It's like you trying to put some chain on majority of us now from tryin to earn OC quickly...