Question & Answer Thread

[slapnuts]

Okay I have LOL "10" charge shot IV skill cards, 10 White peacock IV skill cards, 10 Lightning shot IV skill cards, 10 Poison Rapid shot IV cards, 1 Rainbow peacock VII and Lightning flash shot VII.

should I save these skills when I get a better bow? when I say better bows I mean Golden eye etc? I just got a Meteor bow which is a +50 atm "not the best of bow" but it get's the job done pretty well.

lol choices choices >.<

P.S theres so much knowledge in this section which has helped me out a lot! i'm not the fastest learner "but rather slow" want to say thank you.

[SupremeTentacle]

Don't bother saving anything rank V or lower, as you can just extract another one using Momo

[Ryxa]

Okay I have LOL "10" charge shot IV skill cards, 10 White peacock IV skill cards, 10 Lightning shot IV skill cards, 10 Poison Rapid shot IV cards, 1 Rainbow peacock VII and Lightning flash shot VII.

should I save these skills when I get a better bow? when I say better bows I mean Golden eye etc? I just got a Meteor bow which is a +50 atm "not the best of bow" but it get's the job done pretty well.

lol choices choices >.<

P.S theres so much knowledge in this section which has helped me out a lot! i'm not the fastest learner "but rather slow" want to say thank you.

If you plan on using those skills at rank 5, you can save them and use them over and over after you skill evo. So if you wanted to use Charge Shot V, White Peacock V, and Rapid Shot V as your three skills, you could save those cards for a better bow and keep using those 3 cards over and over until you get all 3 onto one bow. Since they're likely to overwrite each other a few times, you would want at least 3 or 4 of each card per bow. Of course, this is just an example and personally I think those skills aren't very useful on bow (Specifically in Edo). Icicle Arrow VII, Meteor Rain Shot VII, and Rainbow Peacock VII are the skills that I would recommend. I'd also recommend Boulder Dash since it looks great according to its numbers, but I haven't seen it used or used it personally yet. Also, like Rhythm said, anything below VI can be extracted so if you don't mind the extra time farming cards feel free to waste them however you want.

[SupremeTentacle]

Boulder dash is decent, it functions similarly to a fat WDS 3 for spear, except you can't roll out of it as early. That said, I think its only good up until Echigo, as it may not do enough damage for Edo monsters to OHK them.

Meteor rain is pretty ass for grinding. You might as well try and skill change to get Aqua needle or something. Lightning flash shot is kinda meh as well.

[zay.]

Boulder dash is decent, it functions similarly to a fat WDS 3 for spear, except you can't roll out of it as early. That said, I think its only good up until Echigo, as it may not do enough damage for Edo monsters to OHK them.

Meteor rain is pretty ass for grinding. You might as well try and skill change to get Aqua needle or something. Lightning flash shot is kinda meh as well.

aqua needle?.. Noooo.

The best VII setup skills for bow ( with a 'normal setup' ) would be rainbow peacock VII icicle storm VII ligthing flash shot VII

lighting flash shot ain’t meh, it is a really good skill o.o

[SupremeTentacle]

LFS is literally shit.

All it is is a slightly stronger, faster water cannon, which is also just as shit. It doesn't have enough damage to really become useful, while Aqua Needle at least has enough functionality to take out a single monster at higher ranks. LFS is also completely unuseable against rooms that contain ranged monsters under the assumption that you intend to mob. Even if you don't intend to mob, it's not very functional unless you can kill monsters in 1-2 shots, which generally isn't the case because its pretty weak. It scales out super hard as you progress through the game, where as single targets like aqua needle scale in. Even with a +100 Satan Cross and its free +40 lightning, LFS's damage is pretty much negligible against Edo tier mobs.

Also, aqua needle will fire all of its shots before the animation is actually done, so you can force them to come out first frame if you cancel into the skill, or auto once to proc all the damage if you rolled at the start of the animation.

Even taking early game into consideration, LFS is not very good. While it might have its use in grinding areas such as Gedoumaru, it's pretty much useless in Yakumo Temple.

It's only really useable in two rooms in SF, both of which are more easily cleared with a superior skill such as boulder dash.

Starting in Echigo, there is absolutely zero reason to continue using LFS, as you'll get heavily punished by Kubire Oni, Bakezouri, Bakeneko and Tsujigami in EE. Even if you derp and decided to go with a shittier grind location such as grotto, it still sees no benefit to its use due to receiving punishment from blue pengs and similar mobs.

[zay.]

i have used LFS alot ( i was bow ) grinding Secluded forest and grotto with it, it was pretty good on grotto if u can 1 /2 shot kill it. So i though it would be pretty good in edo ( without research ) too cuz of all the lighting element we get. But yes it is only good for mobbing if u want to kill 1 mob u go use ur icicle storm, if there are 3 mobs after u pretty lined up go use LFS ( reason why i liked it ) and if there is a bunch go use rainbow peac.ock.

That’s why that is mine top 3 bow skills i really don’t like aqua needle because like u said single target..

[SupremeTentacle]

Meta changed after new skills came in.

Boulder Dash completely replaced LFS. It basically has almost the same damage per tick, the same number of hits, the same mob limit, similar cool down but comes with much larger AOE and a smaller amount of time standing still due to much lower cast time. Oh and did I mention that LFS takes 14 more mana?

The sole advantage of LFS is that you can glitch it so that it takes 0 dura. That is also a non-issue though, seeing as you can do the same thing with Amaya already.

tl;dr boulder dash is a safer, larger, higher burst and lower cost LFS, rendering the older skill completely outdated and a waste of a slot.

The reason Aqua Needle was mentioned as a superior option is because bows don't need such an excessive number of mobbing skills anyways. Having 2 Amaya + a rainbow peacock and icicle storm on each bow is more than enough under the assumption that a player carries two weapons.

[Momiji]

Bump. this thread should be stickied.

Moderators, please remove those advertising messages off discussion board please?

[Leobreaker322]

I'd like to know at what specific times the GMs are available to talk to ingame? There is a problem I got associated with some of the edo sidequests. Should I instead post it here or report to them instead?