Question & Answer Thread

[MobonjiMK3]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

for Tentacle guy i will just ignore how Wand compare to Bow in term of clearing the mobs because it's just pointless.

and now you bring up about TS can out-damage every weapon type but Axe? what? are you fucking serious here?

i will show 2 vids to compare damage out put here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVDJaFoLhJw

https://youtu.be/dATlzXvll8w?t=13m46s

now if you are confidence about your statement, please just show me how TS do againt Lucifer.

[Tekato]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

for Tentacle guy i will just ignore how Wand compare to Bow in term of clearing the mobs because it's just pointless.

and now you bring up about TS can out-damage every weapon type but Axe? what? are you fucking serious here?

i will show 2 vids to compare damage out put here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVDJaFoLhJw

https://youtu.be/dATlzXvll8w?t=13m46s

now if you are confidence about your statement, please just show me how TS do againt Lucifer.

You keep posting these videos that don't really show anything other than some dude doing a dungeon... Unless the video show their magatama , weapons, skill ranks and stat builds we can't really compare anything.

[Firon]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

for Tentacle guy i will just ignore how Wand compare to Bow in term of clearing the mobs because it's just pointless.

and now you bring up about TS can out-damage every weapon type but Axe? what? are you fucking serious here?

i will show 2 vids to compare damage out put here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVDJaFoLhJw

https://youtu.be/dATlzXvll8w?t=13m46s

now if you are confidence about your statement, please just show me how TS do againt Lucifer.

You keep posting these videos that don't really show anything other than some dude doing a dungeon... Unless the video show their magatama , weapons, skill ranks and stat builds we can't really compare anything.

They also happen to be level 115 and 120 in this case.

Btw, Rhythm is probably referring to the weapon base attack values (enhancements are the same regardless of the weapon type). That and the fact that twin swords have an ice ougi which happens to be ice/rain, a weapon that happens to be ice/rain and magatama that happen to be ice/rain.

That aside, I don't think it will ever be possible to actually give a fair comparison between weapon types by giving player examples due to the amount of rng in smelting and ornamenting -especially with the crafted magatama.

[MobonjiMK3]

If just comparing damage out put isn't enough then i can't say anything anymore.

what else do you expect when people just try hard to critical hit everything...

well Tekato... here is what you ask for, it's shown on the same vid.

https://youtu.be/dATlzXvll8w?t=19m17s

in anycase Bow user just use 105 magatamas and with 3502 Affinity.

[Tekato]

If just comparing damage out put isn't enough then i can't say anything anymore.

what else do you expect when people just try hard to critical hit everything...

well Tekato... here is what you ask for, it's shown on the same vid.

https://youtu.be/dATlzXvll8w?t=19m17s

in anycase Bow user just use 105 magatamas and with 3502 Affinity.

Cant really see the ornaments ... Also the TS user was using a chiami and was still dealing about the same damage as that bow user imagine with 4 105s, he also had a lot health so I'm assuming the TS was using Fated ornaments with HP bonuses

[Ryxa]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

Read what I said again. A build encompasses magatama choice. As it seems that you don't understand the difference between a utility build and a damage build, I have nothing more to say to you.

I also request that everyone responding to this guy stop responding to him (regarding this topic specifically) unless he cares enough about his opinion to open a new thread rather than spam the Q&A thread. He's not looking for an answer to a question. He's just here to complain.

[MobonjiMK3]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

Read what I said again. A build encompasses magatama choice. As it seems that you don't understand the difference between a utility build and a damage build, I have nothing more to say to you.

I also request that everyone responding to this guy stop responding to him (regarding this topic specifically) unless he cares enough about his opinion to open a new thread rather than spam the Q&A thread. He's not looking for an answer to a question. He's just here to complain.

The most sadness thing is the fact that you are wiki admin to spread false informations, TS user's damage not even match other weppons here with this built or even if he use damage built because 105 and 117 magatama can easily over come it, and the fact that 105 and 117 magatama are alot harder to built make this TS user can do has half as what 105 and 117 magatama coud do, are you a sword user right? i will dump this vid to compare what TS user could do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ImnAtfJmA

sword can deal double damage with out damage built here, i know that you never get to fight with those bosses before, just kept stuck on private server for the rest of your life you dump ass.

[Tekato]

Those 2 replies gave me cancer.

first of all, Ryxa... are you even watch the vids? or are you blind? who ever need you to teach the math when you cant even understand a simple thing.

in the vids, his damage isn't incresed when his hp drop below 50%, it's clear that he isn't using 105 or 117 magatamas.

Read what I said again. A build encompasses magatama choice. As it seems that you don't understand the difference between a utility build and a damage build, I have nothing more to say to you.

I also request that everyone responding to this guy stop responding to him (regarding this topic specifically) unless he cares enough about his opinion to open a new thread rather than spam the Q&A thread. He's not looking for an answer to a question. He's just here to complain.

The most sadness thing is the fact that you are wiki admin to spread false informations, TS user's damage not even match other weppons here with this built or even if he use damage built because 105 and 117 magatama can easily over come it, and the fact that 105 and 117 magatama are alot harder to built make this TS user can do has half as what 105 and 117 magatama coud do, are you a sword user right? i will dump this vid to compare what TS user could do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ImnAtfJmA

sword can deal double damage with out damage built here, i know that you never get to fight with those bosses before, just kept stuck on private server for the rest of your life you dump ass.

Another completely different boss with different resistances ... I also do not see this double damage Im still looking at 200k damage ticks which the TS guy was doing as well with ccc with fuuris magatamas/chiami.

Sorry last reply the autism is real

[SupremeTentacle]

Let me put this in simple terms so that someone like you is actually capable of understanding the arguments that I am making.

As Firon has stated, I was referring to base attack. Twin sword is ranked second in terms of average base attack. Furthermore, twin sword also has access to more affinity boosters than any other weapon type in the game. They are the one and only weapon that has a 60% title granting their main stat, as well as additional scaling from power. And no, power weapons don't benefit from power's bonus scaling, stupidly enough. The end result of this is that TS ends up with a higher attack average AND higher maximum attack stat than sword. As attack scales your damage in two different ways, this implies that twin swords will hit much harder than swords ceteris paribus.

The main difference that would be applied here is then skill force for each individual skill.

Twin sword completely beats out sword for bossing because of Fuujin Geki, which has overtaken Bright homing as the skill with the single highest skill force in the game.

Nowadays though, people just use the carded versions of Gargoyle ougi for clearing AND bossing because of how convenient and strong they are. Note that these all share the same skill force values across all weapons.

Twin sword is one of the only weapons whose 117's have both of a garg ougi's elements on it, implying that it scales extremely well. This, factored in with the fact that they have the second highest attack stat implies that they have either the first or second highest DPS in the game. You can ask any decently geared, and not socially shunned high leveled Japanese player, and they will tell you that twin sword users that they have partied with were hitting over 1.5m per tick with ice/rain garg ougi. Unlike you - I'm far too lazy to go around looking for videos, but if I recall correctly, it did 400-500k a tick to Lucy depending on the ornaments that the player had.

If all these blatant mathematical facts do not provide you with an understanding of the weapon's strength, then I believe you must be less intelligent than a goat, and hence, you would do best to kill yourself to prevent your genes from infecting future generations. Do note that this will be my final reply to this matter, unless you bring up significant facts and points, instead of attempting to show us worthless videos of people with shitty gear.

[MobonjiMK3]

Sigh.. as i expected, first is some moron who never understand neko/fuuri are not much difference form 105 magatama if player's hp still above 50%, i know that you are lazy to watch the whole vid, if you already stop playing just go out side and get a life, i wonder why are you still here you fucking idiot.

and another one with his super strong proof...by asking people... well yeah if you dont have character level 115 or 120 on jp or tw server then shut the fuck up, your statement besed on imagine and you haven't try it yourself.

And im not telling people that Sword can do better than TS, i just trying to correct Ts with chimi,neko/fuuri cant compare to average Sword or TS when using 105 or 117 magatama, i dont understand why you guys can misunderstand this so much, because someone brought this messed up info then i just want to correct it.

the last thing was you mentioned 2 difference skills with difference built and claim that it can beat other classes, what do you refer to exactly?

does Fuujin GeKi better than Iceblast Embers GOKU? i dont even see your point here again the 105 and 117 magatama for TS provide Ice and Rain, it may scaling well with Iceblast Embers GOKU but how can Fuujin Geki beat out Sword with Bursting Embers GOKU? when it can scales exthemely well with 105 or 117 magatama for sword? are you even ever test it yourself? or just state it based on asking people in jp?

show me the proof or you fail as a human being, i knew that you dont have high level character on jp/tw, you may fool other but not me, you dump fuck.

i also done wasting my time here, im not belong here either and just play primary on tw server, happy playing lack behind you shitty moron fuck ass whom only rely on shitty private server.