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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby HelixDraxzonyx » 22 May 2016, 19:07

Taking on Satan with wands looks like it'd be difficult. From what I saw on the wiki, there's literally only two Holy skills: Bright Homing and Ougi God-Sealing Circle. Since Bright Homing requires you to stand still for a while as you chain off the hits, that seems like a bad skill to use against Satan. I guess the best bet would be to brute force with a neutral element. I've never even seen GSC so I know nothing about its damage, run up or cooldown.

I don't think *I'll* have much trouble fighting him, when I get that far anyway. My main has access to Exorcist Arrow, Amaya's Punishment and Sunlight Strike. My secondary has the same plus Holy Pillar. My sword user has Holy Empty Sky Slash (I think Sacred Strike might be Holy as well). My bow user has Exorcust and Amaya, my staff user has Holy Pillar, my spear user... might be boned, my Odachi loli has Shining Enma Slash (plus access to HESS and Sacred Strike), and my Gandalf-wannabe has HESS, Sacred Strike and Holy Pillar. So it's just my Lancer I need to worry about, but I think he can brute force.
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Heimarmene » 22 May 2016, 19:52

HelixDraxzonyx wrote:Taking on Satan with wands looks like it'd be difficult. From what I saw on the wiki, there's literally only two Holy skills: Bright Homing and Ougi God-Sealing Circle. Since Bright Homing requires you to stand still for a while as you chain off the hits, that seems like a bad skill to use against Satan. I guess the best bet would be to brute force with a neutral element. I've never even seen GSC so I know nothing about its damage, run up or cooldown.

I don't think *I'll* have much trouble fighting him, when I get that far anyway. My main has access to Exorcist Arrow, Amaya's Punishment and Sunlight Strike. My secondary has the same plus Holy Pillar. My sword user has Holy Empty Sky Slash (I think Sacred Strike might be Holy as well). My bow user has Exorcust and Amaya, my staff user has Holy Pillar, my spear user... might be boned, my Odachi loli has Shining Enma Slash (plus access to HESS and Sacred Strike), and my Gandalf-wannabe has HESS, Sacred Strike and Holy Pillar. So it's just my Lancer I need to worry about, but I think he can brute force.


Emeraldwolf carried me through Satan yesterday so I managed to finish it successfully.

Though I did try to solo him myself after that and I was almost able to do it with 3 bandais and the +30 lightning element title. If I upgraded my wand from a nebular storm to something else then I probably would have been able to solo him like that. That being said, the massive lightning wall of death is quite obnoxious especially when he starts throwing like 2-3 of them around :|

As for bright homing, it's actually not too bad against satan, the guy's attacks other than the lasers take even longer than bright homing to cast and I hear that god sealing circle is kinda like a bigger holy version of rolling thunder so it'll probably be too slow for this (not that I have god sealing circle in the first place though).

By the way, what's a good way of getting bright homing VI? I can only find bright homing I,II,III on wands I identify :x
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby EmeraldWolf » 22 May 2016, 20:23

Heimarmene wrote:
HelixDraxzonyx wrote:Taking on Satan with wands looks like it'd be difficult. From what I saw on the wiki, there's literally only two Holy skills: Bright Homing and Ougi God-Sealing Circle. Since Bright Homing requires you to stand still for a while as you chain off the hits, that seems like a bad skill to use against Satan. I guess the best bet would be to brute force with a neutral element. I've never even seen GSC so I know nothing about its damage, run up or cooldown.

I don't think *I'll* have much trouble fighting him, when I get that far anyway. My main has access to Exorcist Arrow, Amaya's Punishment and Sunlight Strike. My secondary has the same plus Holy Pillar. My sword user has Holy Empty Sky Slash (I think Sacred Strike might be Holy as well). My bow user has Exorcust and Amaya, my staff user has Holy Pillar, my spear user... might be boned, my Odachi loli has Shining Enma Slash (plus access to HESS and Sacred Strike), and my Gandalf-wannabe has HESS, Sacred Strike and Holy Pillar. So it's just my Lancer I need to worry about, but I think he can brute force.


Emeraldwolf carried me through Satan yesterday so I managed to finish it successfully.

Though I did try to solo him myself after that and I was almost able to do it with 3 bandais and the +30 lightning element title. If I upgraded my wand from a nebular storm to something else then I probably would have been able to solo him like that. That being said, the massive lightning wall of death is quite obnoxious especially when he starts throwing like 2-3 of them around :|

As for bright homing, it's actually not too bad against satan, the guy's attacks other than the lasers take even longer than bright homing to cast and I hear that god sealing circle is kinda like a bigger holy version of rolling thunder so it'll probably be too slow for this (not that I have god sealing circle in the first place though).

By the way, what's a good way of getting bright homing VI? I can only find bright homing I,II,III on wands I identify :x


Get bright homing 5 and level momo up, after the skill is leveled up you can upgrade it to rank 6.
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby maxwell3094 » 22 May 2016, 20:49

TLDR version of the strategy I put in the guide for satan is to focus on drawing out that attack of his where he does a circle of lightning around him for a bit and pound him with bright homing while he does. If you happen to have a wand (even a bad one) with evade warp I HIGHLY recommend holding it whenever your not attacking and using it to I-frame through the 180 degree laser especially if your having issues timing the just guard for it. Eventually got it to work for me. God bless bright homing and its stupidly high damage. You can also pretty freely potshot him with faster things like flamestrike after most of his other attacks.
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Firon » 22 May 2016, 22:18

EmeraldWolf wrote:
Heimarmene wrote:
HelixDraxzonyx wrote:Taking on Satan with wands looks like it'd be difficult. From what I saw on the wiki, there's literally only two Holy skills: Bright Homing and Ougi God-Sealing Circle. Since Bright Homing requires you to stand still for a while as you chain off the hits, that seems like a bad skill to use against Satan. I guess the best bet would be to brute force with a neutral element. I've never even seen GSC so I know nothing about its damage, run up or cooldown.

I don't think *I'll* have much trouble fighting him, when I get that far anyway. My main has access to Exorcist Arrow, Amaya's Punishment and Sunlight Strike. My secondary has the same plus Holy Pillar. My sword user has Holy Empty Sky Slash (I think Sacred Strike might be Holy as well). My bow user has Exorcust and Amaya, my staff user has Holy Pillar, my spear user... might be boned, my Odachi loli has Shining Enma Slash (plus access to HESS and Sacred Strike), and my Gandalf-wannabe has HESS, Sacred Strike and Holy Pillar. So it's just my Lancer I need to worry about, but I think he can brute force.


Emeraldwolf carried me through Satan yesterday so I managed to finish it successfully.

Though I did try to solo him myself after that and I was almost able to do it with 3 bandais and the +30 lightning element title. If I upgraded my wand from a nebular storm to something else then I probably would have been able to solo him like that. That being said, the massive lightning wall of death is quite obnoxious especially when he starts throwing like 2-3 of them around :|

As for bright homing, it's actually not too bad against satan, the guy's attacks other than the lasers take even longer than bright homing to cast and I hear that god sealing circle is kinda like a bigger holy version of rolling thunder so it'll probably be too slow for this (not that I have god sealing circle in the first place though).

By the way, what's a good way of getting bright homing VI? I can only find bright homing I,II,III on wands I identify :x


Get bright homing 5 and level momo up, after the skill is leveled up you can upgrade it to rank 6.


You need a lot of luck for that one since the skills that can be evolved depend on rng and the bright homing V can only be from smithing or identifying (skill cards are never evolvable -except ougi. Skill evolution V cancels one evolution if there's one). Other options would be the Point Daruma rank 4-6 boxes and skill change from smelting. I'd suggest getting point daruma skill cards anyway to build a collection of VI cards since they could always be useful. Maybe after you've gotten all the ougi you need from it, though...
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Miyano311 » 23 May 2016, 00:39

Or u get too much luck, take a spin in nyankoropon, and shout out cause u get a Skill Set Card 8 (or 9? Not sure) and it has Bright Homing VII
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Heimarmene » 23 May 2016, 00:54

EmeraldWolf wrote:
Heimarmene wrote:
HelixDraxzonyx wrote:Taking on Satan with wands looks like it'd be difficult. From what I saw on the wiki, there's literally only two Holy skills: Bright Homing and Ougi God-Sealing Circle. Since Bright Homing requires you to stand still for a while as you chain off the hits, that seems like a bad skill to use against Satan. I guess the best bet would be to brute force with a neutral element. I've never even seen GSC so I know nothing about its damage, run up or cooldown.

I don't think *I'll* have much trouble fighting him, when I get that far anyway. My main has access to Exorcist Arrow, Amaya's Punishment and Sunlight Strike. My secondary has the same plus Holy Pillar. My sword user has Holy Empty Sky Slash (I think Sacred Strike might be Holy as well). My bow user has Exorcust and Amaya, my staff user has Holy Pillar, my spear user... might be boned, my Odachi loli has Shining Enma Slash (plus access to HESS and Sacred Strike), and my Gandalf-wannabe has HESS, Sacred Strike and Holy Pillar. So it's just my Lancer I need to worry about, but I think he can brute force.


Emeraldwolf carried me through Satan yesterday so I managed to finish it successfully.

Though I did try to solo him myself after that and I was almost able to do it with 3 bandais and the +30 lightning element title. If I upgraded my wand from a nebular storm to something else then I probably would have been able to solo him like that. That being said, the massive lightning wall of death is quite obnoxious especially when he starts throwing like 2-3 of them around :|

As for bright homing, it's actually not too bad against satan, the guy's attacks other than the lasers take even longer than bright homing to cast and I hear that god sealing circle is kinda like a bigger holy version of rolling thunder so it'll probably be too slow for this (not that I have god sealing circle in the first place though).

By the way, what's a good way of getting bright homing VI? I can only find bright homing I,II,III on wands I identify :x


Get bright homing 5 and level momo up, after the skill is leveled up you can upgrade it to rank 6.


I can't :x I put bright homing V on my wand via a skill card so momo can't evolve it.

Firon wrote:You need a lot of luck for that one since the skills that can be evolved depend on rng and the bright homing V can only be from smithing or identifying (skill cards are never evolvable -except ougi. Skill evolution V cancels one evolution if there's one). Other options would be the Point Daruma rank 4-6 boxes and skill change from smelting. I'd suggest getting point daruma skill cards anyway to build a collection of VI cards since they could always be useful. Maybe after you've gotten all the ougi you need from it, though...


I actually tried evolving bright homing V to bright homing VI via smelting but for some reason even though it was the lowest ranking skill on the wand (the other two skills were frost glaive VII and flame strike VII) it stayed as bright homing V after the successful smelt (I'm not really willing to try for a +100 on the wand right now ><)

maxwell3094 wrote:TLDR version of the strategy I put in the guide for satan is to focus on drawing out that attack of his where he does a circle of lightning around him for a bit and pound him with bright homing while he does. If you happen to have a wand (even a bad one) with evade warp I HIGHLY recommend holding it whenever your not attacking and using it to I-frame through the 180 degree laser especially if your having issues timing the just guard for it. Eventually got it to work for me. God bless bright homing and its stupidly high damage. You can also pretty freely potshot him with faster things like flamestrike after most of his other attacks.


I haven't been able to find a wand of my level with evade warp (well more like I haven't found any level 90 wands... I have like 20 inti raimis though). As for the 180 degree laser, it's actually not the biggest thing I'm having trouble with (it does 1.7k damage to me and extend heal heals me for like 1.4-1.5k), it's actually more of an issue where Satan seems to get to a point where he throws around 2-3 lightning walls of dooms at once and I start running out of space to move around it and then I eventually get stuck in a corner @.@
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Miyano311 » 23 May 2016, 01:00

Heimarmene wrote:I actually tried evolving bright homing V to bright homing VI via smelting but for some reason even though it was the lowest ranking skill on the wand (the other two skills were frost glaive VII and flame strike VII) it stayed as bright homing V after the successful smelt (I'm not really willing to try for a +100 on the wand right now ><)


The Skill Evolution V artisan will NOT evolve those whose ranks are V or above.
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Re: So I just came back from a year and a half hiatus

Postby Firon » 23 May 2016, 08:13

Miyano311 wrote:Or u get too much luck, take a spin in nyankoropon, and shout out cause u get a Skill Set Card 8 (or 9? Not sure) and it has Bright Homing VII


Oops, forgot about that.

I should probably also mention that your chances of getting Bright Homing VI from the point daruma is roughly a 0.8%...
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