hi guys will guns will ever come in the game

[Sparhawk]

Weapon variety is always a good thing. The game really has too few weapons but it's following a certian era weaponstyle. Though dual swords... yeah whatever.

Anything added would have to fit the theme unless everyone doesn't care abuot breaking it. So maybe slings, javalin, crossbow could make it in for ranged. Nun-chucks maybe? Claws of course. Theres like 20 different spear combat styles depending onw what's on the end. Wouldn't mind a staff ala PSO double saber style.

Still anything added has to fit the theme and timeframe. So guns aren't likely. Magic that acts like a gun is the best you'll get here, I'd think.

[MadScientist]

Weapon variety is always a good thing. The game really has too few weapons but it's following a certian era weaponstyle. Though dual swords... yeah whatever.

Anything added would have to fit the theme unless everyone doesn't care abuot breaking it. So maybe slings, javalin, crossbow could make it in for ranged. Nun-chucks maybe? Claws of course. Theres like 20 different spear combat styles depending onw what's on the end. Wouldn't mind a staff ala PSO double saber style.

Still anything added has to fit the theme and timeframe. So guns aren't likely. Magic that acts like a gun is the best you'll get here, I'd think.

May I ask why guns wouldn't fit the timeframe? Anybody know exactly what era this is? From what I can tell it's only back when samurais were around which covers quite a large time frame which include gun use but also is a fictional era which is made clear with Kaguya's gun sword etc. So if someone has an exact date on this written somewhere..

Oda Nobunaga is famous for being a big factor in uniting Japan and he used Arquebus/Muskets in those samurai days. He defeated Takeda's famous heavy cavalry with them and was 1 of the first to start using fire by rank formations in Japan. This was in the 1500s. There are plenty of guns used up until the end of the samurai days all the way up into the Meiji period in the late 1800s.

Let's just say for instance, if we ignore all the cyber stuff, trains, Kaguya, etc, that since 1 of the weapons we use is an Ōdachi, we can say that this goes the latest up into the 1600s until the Shogunate government changed the law on allowed sword lengths. Conveniently enough, dual swords was a very known style at that time due to the legendary Musashi Miyamoto and his Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū style using a Katana and Wakizashi. So maybe this takes place around the 1500 to 1600s or earlier?

On a another note, there is a story of a Momotarō visiting an imaginary island called Onigashima.

There is a Shizuka Gozen also known as Lady Shizuka who was a court dancer and mistress to someone named Minamoto no Yoshitsune (a guy though) around the late 1100s to early 1200s. But in Onigiri, Shizuka is the Shogunate’s daughter and Yoshitsune is a female warrior who protects the Shogunate. And there is no Gozen or Minamoto. Shizuka is only referred to as Shizuka or Lady Shizuka and Yoshitsune is just Yoshitsune.

Miroku might be referring to Buddhism and might not really have anything to do with trading.

In Onigiri, Kaguya is said to be raised by Queen Himiko and Nashime. There is a Queen Himiko along with a messenger named Nashime who lived around the late 100s to early 200s which is a 1000 year gap between Shizuka.

Ibaraki Douji might be based on a mythical Demon who went crazy in Kyoto. Ibaraki might be referring to the location in Japan and Dōji meaning child but viewed as Demon OffSpring. Ibaraki Dōji might be from around the late 900s to early 1000s due to the involvement of Minamoto no Yorimitsu who lived around that time.

So from what I can tell there is no set period. There’s many things involved ranging anywhere from the Yayoi period in the late 100s up to the Edo/Tokugawa period in the 1600s. And so much fictional stuff that you can't say it was in any of these eras.

Tl;DR Kaguya. Doesn't matter if they put them in the game or not imo. Just don't break it.

[SupremeTentacle]

Yoshitsune uses her family name Minamoto several times in game =P

[MadScientist]

Yoshitsune uses her family name Minamoto several times in game =P

Thanks. I guess I missed that part with my spam clicking.

[SupremeTentacle]

Oh and I forgot.

Gozen is appended to Shizuka's name in the jp version of the game.

[graze]

Shizuka Gozen is literally Lady Shizuka in Japanese.

About the setting of the game, think of it like another Gensoukyou (from Touhou Project) with different eras and historical characters mixed together. People live in the old way with limited access to advanced technology and lots of magic.

On topic, I would love to see guns like matchlock or flintlock muskets as they fit the theme of the game without overly modern or cliche. Reloading rate may be slower than bows but the damage is much higher.

[MadScientist]

Shizuka Gozen is literally Lady Shizuka in Japanese.

About the setting of the game, think of it like another Gensoukyou (from Touhou Project) with different eras and historical characters mixed together. People live in the old way with limited access to advanced technology and lots of magic.

On topic, I would love to see guns like matchlock or flintlock muskets as they fit the theme of the game without overly modern or cliche. Reloading rate may be slower than bows but the damage is much higher.

From what I thought, gozen translated to before noon which is considered AM time wise.

[SupremeTentacle]

From what I thought, gozen translated to before noon which is considered AM time wise.

Depends on the Kanji used.

[Sparhawk]

May I ask why guns wouldn't fit the timeframe? Anybody know exactly what era this is? SNIP!

Wow.... history lesson ahoy! Still iIf you're going to ague for guns then you can argure for any weapon type. If we use the musket then we have gunpowder then you get small bombs as well. Who wants a fireworks based weapon? At some point you just gotta go... nope. It's within this limit and we stick with it.

Otherwise we keep going untill we hit lightsaber tech for weapons. I don't think the game is meant to go that way.