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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Lynneth » 09 Jul 2014, 19:34

Ryusen wrote:There are Magatamas that are for Staff/Wand Users. I've seen a few at Magatama Crafting

And Yes most of the Rewards are fixed. It's a bit sad but That's what weapon gets the most action so it's whats given. If the game was more centered around magic there would be more for that weapon type.

I mean just look at the majority of the NPC cast, how many are magic based? None (Maybe one if the Mini Goddess is a magic class)


When will you get 'Magatama Crafting' NPC provided?

Yes, this game is centered not on magic class. Well, even B&S which centered on 'Blade' has a balanced class of magic user, has has the option to select the prize for their magic class :D
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby lyner » 09 Jul 2014, 20:27

If only there were a trade system in this game.

I remember running Byak hell from lvl 23-27 and got like 60 gold weapons (???) 38 of which were staff/wands.
I'm a bow-type player so I dont really have any use for these, but they are a bit helpful for regen-ing SP. Maybe I
should sell them off at min price.

That aside, I think its a matter of luck as well. I've only partied once in my whole gameplay experience here (Kishiden) so I only have a vague understanding of how exp works when you play with a party. But maybe Pure-mind chars were meant for party plays. Unless of course, you make a hybrid.

Though I say that, maybe the devs didn't really account for this at all.
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Ryusen » 09 Jul 2014, 20:29

You get the NPC at the end of the 3rd down and at the beginning of the 4th Town. It's the girl with the eye patch.

See I never Played Blade and Soul since It's never been localized in the NA As far as I know.
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Lynneth » 09 Jul 2014, 21:27

Ryusen wrote:You get the NPC at the end of the 3rd down and at the beginning of the 4th Town. It's the girl with the eye patch.

See I never Played Blade and Soul since It's never been localized in the NA As far as I know.


Thanks for the answer, ryusen. Are your ingame nick also 'Ryusen'? I notice someone named Ryusen/Ryuzen ingame. I just got to Byakou yesterday. Any(one) chance helping me with finding gold/red staffs today ? :p :D .

With Gold/Red/Blue star weapon the difference is not very noticable, and the additional option : Dex+6.. Rain Element+6.. I think the developers never thought seriously to staff users. We need +Holy Element and Staff Affinity :(, just like 'Swords/Axes/Bows' type. :(.

*ranting*
And the Magatama +25 Elementals really sucks because it has -50% Gold Income. It cuts your Gold income by half :(.

@developers
Why not create Initial Magatama increase Holy elemental? or Staff Affinity in %?
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Lynneth » 09 Jul 2014, 21:35

Lynneth wrote:
Ryusen wrote:You get the NPC at the end of the 3rd down and at the beginning of the 4th Town. It's the girl with the eye patch.

See I never Played Blade and Soul since It's never been localized in the NA As far as I know.


Thanks for the answer, ryusen. Are your ingame nick also 'Ryusen'? I notice someone named Ryusen/Ryuzen ingame. I just got to Byakou yesterday. Any(one) chance helping me with finding gold/red staffs today ? :p :D .

With Gold/Red/Blue star weapon the difference is not very noticable, and the additional option : Dex+6.. Rain Element+6.. I think the developers never thought seriously to staff users. We need +Holy Element and Staff Affinity :(, just like 'Swords/Axes/Bows' type. :(.

*ranting*
And the Magatama +25 Elementals really sucks because it has -50% Gold Income. It cuts your Gold income by half :(.

@developers
Why not create Initial Magatama increase Holy elemental? or Staff Affinity in %?


----ranting part2---- :D :D
Perhaps later when I have finished the quests ingame later I'll switch into other 'Type' and other 'Stats Build'.

I saw my friend slashing/hacking with ease facing bosses (And he doesn't even enhance his weapon at all, on the other hand I must enhance my weapon to +20 to get noticable results). (He's on Katana/Odachi/Sword Type). or Dual wield/Bows seem cool too. Or perhaps Axes to one/two hit(s) killing bosses. For healing, you don't really need a dedicated cleric right?

I saw my friend who up just pow+vit doesn't need any. He can always use Potions, Liquors and bring one staff to self-heal if necessary. He can blast all the enemies (common enemies) in a second. And bosses in one or two hits. Seems my life would get easier becoming Melee/Range 'Blade/Bow/Spear' type.
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Ryusen » 09 Jul 2014, 22:27

Nope My Character is Ryushiro.
And if you need help and what not add me.

Once you go Bow/Twin you will never go back. Specially if you can survive.

PS: I'm on right now
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Lynneth » 09 Jul 2014, 22:42

Ryusen wrote:Nope My Character is Ryushiro.
And if you need help and what not add me.

Once you go Bow/Twin you will never go back. Specially if you can survive.

PS: I'm on right now


I'm working right now at the office, I'll be home later around 8 hours more, :D lol. Thanks for offering help. Yes, I think I have deep fancy on bows/dual wield type rather than staffs/wands. I do this only to support my friend though, and found that my friend doesn't really need my healing/support anyway, so I decided to reset my stats/type into bow/dual wield or spears.

I guess I can relieve a lot of stress playing Onigiri by switch into other type/weapons :lol: :D . Or perhaps on my way I found some gems by playing cleric/mage then I'll be the role then :D
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Ryusen » 09 Jul 2014, 22:52

I say keep that character support
And create a new one.
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Vrenna » 10 Jul 2014, 05:20

From my experience you get less xp when partying because this game was made so people can't leech others, or something like that.
So if you don't hit every single enemy you don't get the thing.
I was soloing Byakko (Hell) yesterday and was getting like... 1700x2 xp or something, when I had the brilliant idea of partying. For some reason the number of enemies lowered a little (when it shouldn't) and I ended up getting around 1200x2 xp. And I'm a Spear user.
If it works like that, being a supporter isn't worth it.
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Re: the d*ck of the game - Staff Users (Supporters)?

Postby Lynneth » 10 Jul 2014, 06:04

Vrenna wrote:From my experience you get less xp when partying because this game was made so people can't leech others, or something like that.
So if you don't hit every single enemy you don't get the thing.
I was soloing Byakko (Hell) yesterday and was getting like... 1700x2 xp or something, when I had the brilliant idea of partying. For some reason the number of enemies lowered a little (when it shouldn't) and I ended up getting around 1200x2 xp. And I'm a Spear user.
If it works like that, being a supporter isn't worth it.


So the conclusion we have in common then, there's no use playing supporter in this game. We support each ourselves right? :D . I won't say anything more unless there are big patches to remedy this situation. I guess as secondary role, support is okay. As primary role, support sucks.. a lot.

I understand the developer doesn't want anyone "leech" someone from partying in the dungeon. But the devs should make it so that honest support player can get full benefit from party too. For Example : Heal/Sanctuary/Cure can damage the undead/ghost type monster.
This mechanic destroys honest player who want the role 'true support'. From overall skills to SP consumption/recovery mechanics and "Support Skill" I can conclude that this game is not friendly to "support-type" character. I can safely confirm my moving into other role or other games then :lol: .

I also dislike the game mechanics which give items to last hitter in world map without party. So for example, there is a world boss. The HP of world boss is only 1. Then a beginner hit the boss with 1 damage. Then the rest of party that hits the 99999 HP to 1 HP of boss will not get anything.
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