Question & Answer Thread

[Otonashi]

I'm looking for Black Kite Magatama recipe. I'd like to know where it drops so I can craft it, already got its materials :3

Any of the dungeons from Byakkou Cavern to Mount Kurama on Hell, (possibly) excluding Honomusubi Cavern and Yakumo Temple.

[Vicco]

So I played this game back during the Beta, and didn't really feel like coming back after the char wipe, until now.

And I'm stuck in the character creation screen.

So, i'll be blunt - is there any sense in wanting to use wands, staves AND twin swords? From what I've read here, wands are kind of garbage, and having to split my points between three stats will make me not very good at anything.

[SupremeTentacle]

Wands are only garbage early on.

While they still do have mana problems later, they have pretty high damage.

I don't recommend hybridizing 3 different weapon types as it ensures that you're going a general SF magatama build (which in my opinion, is not very strong and requires a very high level due to chakra), or an element build, which is not actually very strong on its own.

I would say - choose a weapon type to start, perhaps begin hybrid around Lv. 70, when you have the extra points to put into a second stat. However, at this point, you're still limited as existing magatama only offer certain combinations, and as far as I can remember, twin swords and wands is not one of them.

Twin sword double SF magatama allow hybridization with axe and bow.

Wand magatama allow hybridization with staff and spear.

[Vicco]

Well... That's a bit problematic for me, then. I like having both magic and melee combat capabilities and spears don't really fit my fancy. I suppose I could just go wand/staff and deal with never having SP, or just go twin sword/bow like literally all my friends that play Onigiri.

[SupremeTentacle]

What do you consider to be magic? Does it have to be a wand or staff spell? There are some skills that are similar to magic skills on melee weapons.

Ex. blue fang blade


Also, you can hybrid staff with sword as there was a "fake staff" magatama that gave skill force to both of those weapons. However, offensive magic is rather limited for staff. Do note however, that there are still very strong staff offensive magics.

Sword is also somewhat dysfunctional without ougi.

[Vicco]

Well, I suppose I'll just go wands and staves. Doesn't sound too bad. I'll save my free respec if they do anything interesting with the system. This basically translates into pumping WIS... Or should I get some MND as well to be able to use staves once in a while right now?

[Moriya Suwako]

So I played this game back during the Beta, and didn't really feel like coming back after the char wipe, until now.

And I'm stuck in the character creation screen.

So, i'll be blunt - is there any sense in wanting to use wands, staves AND twin swords? From what I've read here, wands are kind of garbage, and having to split my points between three stats will make me not very good at anything.

Like said above, I don't recommend going 3 weapon hybrid. As of now, there's only a few 3-weapon hybrids that's viable... namely Wand/Staff/Odachi or the 3 power weapons... and even then, you need a LOT of funding to make it work. Wand isn't as bad as the community says it is, but compared to those like Twin sword or Axe, the damage obviously weaker. But what they have going for them is the range and AOE, not to mention the lack of a mobbing limit. The SP consumption is horrible though.

As for staff, it depends if you're planning to add the bare minimum for invig/meditations/rapid storms, or if you're actually planning max the affinity. Most builds can do the former, but the latter isn't as easy to implement without losing out on too much damage.




Alternatively, you can keep a set of wand magatamas, a set of twin sword magatamas, and alternate between them after each run. Dex and Wisdom do surprisingly compliment each other, so you can try that. However, there aren't many ways to make Wand and Twin sword viable as of current date. If you want to have the easier time with dungeons, just go Twin sword/bow. If you're actually willing to go through the pain of dealing with the horrendous SP discrepancies (at all levels) of wand, go for it.

[SupremeTentacle]

Dex compliments everything though

Yes, that is what it translates into roughly

your other option is to just focus on one until later levels.

[Vicco]

Well, I suppose I'll just go wands and staves. Doesn't sound too bad. I'll save my free respec if they do anything interesting with the system. This basically translates into pumping WIS... Or should I get some MND as well to be able to use staves once in a while right now?

Man, this forum software is freaking out with the timestamps. From what I can understand, wand/twin sword would be pretty cool if there was a magatama that supported it, as dex is pretty useful all around. But as I practically always play with friends, I think I'll be content with wand and later on staff.

[Cinder]

Like said above, I don't recommend going 3 weapon hybrid. As of now, there's only a few 3-weapon hybrids that's viable... namely Wand/Staff/Odachi or the 3 power weapons...

What makes Odachi a good hybrid with wand?

Edit: Oh, because of the holy element + affinity on that title. I gueeesss. Doesn't that mean you have to use all typeless SF magatamas or it's kinda pointless?