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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Sephiroth » 11 Nov 2014, 11:27

I will say, if you can stay away from the Nyankoropon, you shouldn't have to throw hundreds or thousands of dollars at this game. You can reach the top tier as far leveling for roughly $20-$40 a month (200-400 oc) if you just focus on strictly building up on 200% boosts. If that's still a lot of money to some people, no offense but they should do some actual grinding in real life then.


It can still be a lot to some people, even if they can afford it, spending $20-$40 on a game per month just to level, with no other benefits reaped, is bloated pricing. There are mmo's out there with $10 monthly fees that provide exp boosts and much more for far less. There are completely free mmo's with better EXP rates (Yes, Onigiri is completely free. But I'm talking about free mmo's that don't shoot you in the knee for playing free) . I don't think it's a matter of people "Not grinding in real life"... its that needing to spend that much at all to have top tier leveling really is crazy when compared to the way other companies run their games.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Hercules » 11 Nov 2014, 13:17

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I can't argue with those points. I'm ultimately just saying people shouldn't bag on others for spending a little money on this game to keep up with leveling (Me being one of the $20-$40 a month people). Now for those that have already thrown thousands upon thousands at this game, that's a whole different issue, and I would agree that's excessive; but to each his own.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Sephiroth » 12 Nov 2014, 02:39

I definitely don't look down on those that want to spend a little more on leveling. Regardless of the mistakes being made by the company currently, it -is- a really fun game, and I'd probably do the same if I weren't already paying for a couple other games I enjoy, even if I do think you and others that spend that much per month deserve much more for your money.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Hercules » 12 Nov 2014, 21:45

Sephiroth wrote:I definitely don't look down on those that want to spend a little more on leveling. Regardless of the mistakes being made by the company currently, it -is- a really fun game, and I'd probably do the same if I weren't already paying for a couple other games I enjoy, even if I do think you and others that spend that much per month deserve much more for your money.
I know weren't looking down on the paid members, you seem to be one of the only few here that know how to put things into perspective instead of letting your emotions/opinions get too involved. Since thisis pretty much the only MMO i've really played, I can't really speak on how much the top tier players in other games spend to reach there status. But i definitely see where your coming from.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Heretic » 13 Nov 2014, 10:22

PvP will turn this game into shit. Just look at Getamped2, a very bad community just because of PvP. This game will become more pay to win just because of PvP. You should play other PvP games if you really like PvP.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby E-God » 13 Nov 2014, 21:06

i honestly agree with this, the game sucks because we only killing monster and actually the grind rate is pretty high
I mean compared to other game, you really need to do so many times of dungeon to lvl up.
otherwise, the community is ruined already. as the game was formed to be "so much grind" but now everyone is only leeching whole game. they even make a party with a title "Help me clear ........ "
not clearing your own quest, not grinding by yourself, whats the point of that? lol

adding pvp is absolutely good! BUT!
as everyone can see, the DEFENSE vs the ATTACK in this game is somewhat funny
super low def vs super high attack.
IF pvp really added to this game, Hit first = win , attack with auto target like bow = ez win
SADLY pvp seems impossible for this game :( :(
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby E-God » 13 Nov 2014, 21:09

Heretic wrote:PvP will turn this game into shit. Just look at Getamped2, a very bad community just because of PvP. This game will become more pay to win just because of PvP. You should play other PvP games if you really like PvP.


you gotta be kidding right? getamped is surely a battle game. hit -> kill -> survive -> win
getamped without pvp? watching each other until time is up ?
you should get other game for pvp example. LOL :lol:
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Hercules » 13 Nov 2014, 23:28

Obviously with the current attack vs defense mechanics in the PVE aspect is broken. But who says those same mechanics have to transfer into PVP, simply change the defense vs attack mechanics for pvp, and thats one big step towards realistical PVP. I don't get why people make a big deal about thatlol it's a simple fix.
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Imma WDS U » 19 Nov 2014, 07:02

i don't get it.
from my POV this game was made for people who enjoy grinding type game, beside leveling they can power up their own character as uniquely as they can so they can beat the world (literaly).

what will u guys get when PVP enabled ? killing your tier ? lower ? higher ?

this game has it's own development and in my opinion we aren't ready yet to release the so called "PVP feature"

idk if they'll develop PVP room like the old school style game did or they will just do world PVP that by any means will cause lower level character unable to proceed their own quest.

well,here's some solution, either wait for further progress or start MPKing other player using field bosses, mobs or anything u can get on the game.

(sorry for my bad english because russian calls me asian)
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Re: STOP THIS NYANKOROPON UPDATE. WE NEED PVP.

Postby Annette » 19 Nov 2014, 08:59

Hercules wrote:Obviously with the current attack vs defense mechanics in the PVE aspect is broken. But who says those same mechanics have to transfer into PVP, simply change the defense vs attack mechanics for pvp, and thats one big step towards realistical PVP. I don't get why people make a big deal about thatlol it's a simple fix.

It's not anywhere near that simple. The difference in power between a typical player who either does not spend any money or spends a few dollars now and then compared to one who has purchased thousands, even tens of thousands of OC is ridiculously one-sided. If you balance for the weaker players the pay to win crowd will consistently one-shot everyone else. If you balance for the stronger players nobody else will be able to make a dent in anyone's health. The middle ground would effectively be what we see in PvE now.

Damage would somehow need to be reduced in PvP, that's for sure. But it's not as simple as applying a global x% damage reduction to everyone. The most balanced option would be normalization with available customization but I don't see that happening because it does not provide any additional incentive to spend money.
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